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Vasi NOOOOOOO thats so much money

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Team: 2019-20 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 29, 2019
Published: Jul. 29, 2019
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The cap better go up to 85 million next year or something insane we are so screwed cap hell is coming and it's taking bodies!
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22$81,500,000$75,923,331$0$1,362,500$5,576,669
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Jul. 29, 2019 at 9:33 a.m.
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You're almost basically moving the Callahan cap hit into Vasi's contract. Only problem will be if Point comes in with a big contract.
Jul. 29, 2019 at 9:34 a.m.
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At least he is young and will be at the top of his game for 5 years at an absolute minimum, likely 7 or all 8. I'd much rather pay vasy this then price or Bob.
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Jul. 29, 2019 at 9:34 a.m.
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you got 11 million this year that’s not to bad. You guys will have to pull a Toronto and sign fringe nhl players and hope they have a career year
Jul. 29, 2019 at 9:43 a.m.
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He is great I am not questioning that, he earned every penny. Vasi has held his end of the bargain for a while, the cap crunch is going to be so rough.

Killorn get ready to waive your m-ntc
Jul. 29, 2019 at 9:47 a.m.
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And you guys have to sign Sergachev next year! LMAO!!
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Jul. 29, 2019 at 9:49 a.m.
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Lets go bolts!
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And you guys have to sign Sergachev next year! LMAO!!


We are ****ed
Jul. 29, 2019 at 9:51 a.m.
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Quoting: Pahul
And you guys have to sign Sergachev next year! LMAO!!


I would be more worried about Cirelli. He is going to have a breakout year and can easily turn to Point 2.0.
Jul. 29, 2019 at 9:55 a.m.
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And you guys have to sign Sergachev next year! LMAO!!


I think it's been pretty obvious for at least a season now that Sergachev won't be a member of the Lightning after this upcoming season. I've forever seen him as the piece they use to offload a name like Killorn or he gets flipped for other quality players that have another year on their ELC.
Jul. 29, 2019 at 10:02 a.m.
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you got 11 million this year that’s not to bad. You guys will have to pull a Toronto and sign fringe nhl players and hope they have a career year


How many fringe NHLer's have actually suited up for the Leafs? Gauthier and Marincin? Yes they signed 7 guys who are going to fight for a roster spot but they are fighting for 2 roster spots maximum. You are saying that like that is all TO is doing? Are you thinking of Edmonton? Because half their roster is fringe NHL players, which the Oilers hope have career years.
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Jul. 29, 2019 at 10:17 a.m.
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Bolts or LOLts?
Jul. 29, 2019 at 10:20 a.m.
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We are ****ed


Trust the BriseBois Blueprint my friend, if they committed to a 8 years deal with Vas it means they have some trick up their sleeve to make it all work. Otherwise they'd definitely have managed to re-sign him to a 5 years with a lesser AAV
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Jul. 29, 2019 at 10:22 a.m.
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I think it's been pretty obvious for at least a season now that Sergachev won't be a member of the Lightning after this upcoming season. I've forever seen him as the piece they use to offload a name like Killorn or he gets flipped for other quality players that have another year on their ELC.


Lol.

1) Sergachev is not a ****en sweetener. The Lightning held on to him while negotiating with Ottawa for Karlsson, and now you think the'll give him away for pennies? He's a 21 y/o Dman that can play both L and R, with already a 40 points season under his belt. If he'll get traded, Tampa will get a great return out of him.

(btw I'm very confident that Sergachev won't be traded away)
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Jul. 29, 2019 at 10:32 a.m.
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Trust the BriseBois Blueprint my friend, if they committed to a 8 years deal with Vas it means they have some trick up their sleeve to make it all work. Otherwise they'd definitely have managed to re-sign him to a 5 years with a lesser AAV


Is the trick signing cirelli to the title Johnson 3 years 10 million dollars deal? Or sergachev to a 1-2 year bridge?

I'm trying to have faith but it is definitely being tested.
Jul. 29, 2019 at 10:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Hedman4Norris
Is the trick signing cirelli to the title Johnson 3 years 10 million dollars deal? Or sergachev to a 1-2 year bridge?

I'm trying to have faith but it is definitely being tested.


I think Cirelli will take a 3.5ish AAV for 3 years, unless he puts up 65+ points this season. I could see us trading Joseph tho, no way we are able to re-sign him too.
Killorn and Paquette will all be gone by next offseason too IMO Erne possibly too. We got a lot of deserving prospects that can do an amazing job in the bottom six for a cheal ELC contract.
And I think that at least one of TyJo and/or Palat will be asked to waive his NTC and be moved
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Jul. 29, 2019 at 10:42 a.m.
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Lol.

1) Sergachev is not a ****en sweetener. The Lightning held on to him while negotiating with Ottawa for Karlsson, and now you think the'll give him away for pennies? He's a 21 y/o Dman that can play both L and R, with already a 40 points season under his belt. If he'll get traded, Tampa will get a great return out of him.

(btw I'm very confident that Sergachev won't be traded away)


I never insinuated that a trade would look like Killorn+Sergachev for nothing, but if you think the Lightning are getting out of cap hell for free, you're horribly mistaken. Partially my fault due to the wording, but I did mean more of a "Killorn and Sergachev for another ELC defender and a later pick" type of deal where the Bolts aren't just dropping Sergachev for no return, but as a part of a bigger deal in order to make the salary cap work. The Lightning held onto him because they couldn't afford to not have a player as good as him for so cheap on their roster, whether or not they added Karlsson.

Look at what it cost the Leafs to flip Marleau, and he only had one year left on his deal. Killorn's a painfully average player (read: better than Patty) right now but he comes with term.

Next offseason is going to be incredibly difficult for the Lightning, and I'm pretty sure Cernak, Cirelli, and Joseph will be prioritized by management. Keep the skilled forward core together as long as humanly possible and prioritize RD as a strength alongside Foote. I don't doubt that Brisebois has a satchel of Stevie Y magic left in the office and that names like Killorn and maybe Johnson can be moved before that becomes necessary, I just can't see teams lining up to let Tampa continue to be the best franchise post expansion.
Jul. 29, 2019 at 10:49 a.m.
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I think Cirelli will take a 3.5ish AAV for 3 years, unless he puts up 65+ points this season. I could see us trading Joseph tho, no way we are able to re-sign him too.
Killorn and Paquette will all be gone by next offseason too IMO Erne possibly too. We got a lot of deserving prospects that can do an amazing job in the bottom six for a cheal ELC contract.
And I think that at least one of TyJo and/or Palat will be asked to waive his NTC and be moved


100% agree it's time for change and the new younger cheaper bolts to come up. The triplets were loved but it's time to move on. Not like they have been awful they have been very serviceable when they are in the line up. We will get value back for them. They aren't anchors. I guess we'll see. Palat and Johnson will be remembered in a positive way. Especially Johnson he was a playoff warrior a few years ago.
Jul. 29, 2019 at 2:06 p.m.
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How many fringe NHLer's have actually suited up for the Leafs? Gauthier and Marincin? Yes they signed 7 guys who are going to fight for a roster spot but they are fighting for 2 roster spots maximum. You are saying that like that is all TO is doing? Are you thinking of Edmonton? Because half their roster is fringe NHL players, which the Oilers hope have career years.


You not just see the 9 players they just got on league min?
Jul. 29, 2019 at 2:45 p.m.
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You not just see the 9 players they just got on league min?


2 or 3 of which will make the team at most and there is an outside chance none of them will make it.
Jul. 29, 2019 at 2:50 p.m.
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
2 or 3 of which will make the team at most and there is an outside chance none of them will make it.


There’s a chance some will because all the 4th line is is fringe players
Jul. 29, 2019 at 2:55 p.m.
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There’s a chance some will because all the 4th line is is fringe players


Sure, I think Spezza makes the team and then after that who knows and who cares. I'd just take whoever was better at killing penalties and winning faceoffs. Hell, I'd give Goat, Spezza and Shore the 4th line and be beyond happy with that, that would be good enough to play against anyones 4th line and also give 3 more faceoff guys for the PK
Jul. 29, 2019 at 3:07 p.m.
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
Sure, I think Spezza makes the team and then after that who knows and who cares. I'd just take whoever was better at killing penalties and winning faceoffs. Hell, I'd give Goat, Spezza and Shore the 4th line and be beyond happy with that, that would be good enough to play against anyones 4th line and also give 3 more faceoff guys for the PK


Id rather not have goat but other two yes
Jul. 29, 2019 at 3:10 p.m.
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Id rather not have goat but other two yes


We'll see, I honestly couldn't care less who makes the 4th line. The top 3 lines are going to be deadly and I want them to fix the PK.
 
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