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Tampa Bay Lightning signed Andrei Vasilevskiy (8 Years / $9,500,000 AAV)

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Jul 29 at 9:42
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Andrei Vasilevskiy has signed a new contract with the Tampa Bay Lightning.
STANDARD CONTRACT (EXTENSION)
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LENGTH: 8 YEARS
EXPIRY STATUS: UFA
SIGNING TEAM: Tampa Bay LightningTampa Bay Lightning
VALUE: $76,000,000
C.H.% : 11.66
SIGNING DATE: July 29, 2019
SOURCE: CapFriendly
SEASONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY
2020-21$9,500,000$9,500,000$0$8,500,000$3,500,000$12,000,000$12,000,000
2021-22NMC$9,500,000$9,500,000$0$10,000,000$1,000,000$11,000,000$11,000,000
2022-23NMC$9,500,000$9,500,000$0$6,500,000$4,500,000$11,000,000$11,000,000
2023-24NMC$9,500,000$9,500,000$0$5,000,000$4,000,000$9,000,000$9,000,000
2024-25NMC$9,500,000$9,500,000$0$4,500,000$5,500,000$10,000,000$10,000,000
2025-26Modified NTC$9,500,000$9,500,000$0$4,000,000$5,000,000$9,000,000$9,000,000
2026-27Modified NTC$9,500,000$9,500,000$0$3,000,000$5,000,000$8,000,000$8,000,000
2027-28Modified NTC$9,500,000$9,500,000$0$3,000,000$3,000,000$6,000,000$6,000,000
TOTAL$76,000,000$76,000,000$0$44,500,000$31,500,000$76,000,000$76,000,000
CLAUSE DETAILS: 2025-26 to 2027-28: Player submits a 10 team trade list.
CLAUSE SOURCE: CapFriendly
Jul 29 at 9:44
#2
AwesomeMatthews
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Worth every penny? how much cap will they have after this
Jul 29 at 9:44
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The evil stats guy
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Ultimately he is young so it will be alright, but is Vasy really 50% better than Gibson (who should have won the Vezina)?
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Jul 29 at 9:46
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Formerly klondikebar
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good thing hes an absolute animal in the playoffs
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Jul 29 at 9:47
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Lets go bolts!
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Good money considering the cap will go up and vasi earned it all. Tampa your on the clock cap wise. Please bring it home and don't waste Victor hedman's career!

Please point. . . Take a bridge deal let there be a miracle. . . He's not taking one. . . Tampa . . . Please win the popcorn maker!
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Jul 29 at 9:49
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Drumman44
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This makes him the third highest paid goalie behind Price and Bobrovsky. He is also 5 years younger than them.
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Jul 29 at 9:49
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Ok, I don't think this contract will work for Tampa's cap problems at all. Long term goalie contracts like this may back fire in the later half.
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Jul 29 at 9:50
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This is a good signing in a vacuum, but I just wonder how they're going to shed the necessary salary with all the No Trade/No Move clauses that they've handed out.
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Jul 29 at 9:55
#9
I just need sauce
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Good thing only 4 of the players out of the 13 they have signed next year don't have NTCs. Also none of the movable contracts are above 2 million. If point gets 10 million, they have 5 million for 6 players, INCLUDING serachev
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Jul 29 at 10:00
#10
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I like Vasi, but you have to look towards the future, he has proven himself, but for how long? goalie can get injured all the time and then their careers can fade off. in 8 years, what are the chances he gets injured?
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Jul 29 at 10:03
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Oilers, Bruins, Habs
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neat I like the 8 years. I thought he would go for 5. As is the going rate. The cap hit is very reasonable and this could look like a bargain in 5 or 6 years
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Jul 29 at 10:05
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Way too much money for a team that is trying to contend. I would have thought around 7M. He might be worth it. God knows he's better than overrated Carey Price @ 10.5M. Just think it's too much all things considered.
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Jul 29 at 10:12
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rangersandislesfan
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Why so many no votes? He's one of the best goalies in the league.
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Jul 29 at 10:13
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Why so many no votes? He's one of the best goalies in the league.


It's almost 10 million, and for a team that wants to contend, that is to much, and to much term
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Jul 29 at 10:14
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Big payday for Vasy
Jul 29 at 10:14
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Vasy is a very good goalie, but his overall numbers behind one of the best teams in the league aren’t that impressive.
He is still VERY young in terms of goalies so I think he will still become more consistent and the deal will be good in the second half. Just questioning if a 3 year bridge would have been a better option.
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Jul 29 at 10:16
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Quoting: Hockeylover360
Ok, I don't think this contract will work for Tampa's cap problems at all. Long term goalie contracts like this may back fire in the later half.


He's 25
Jul 29 at 10:17
#18
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Okay, commenting on this contract we have to keep two things separated.

1) The contract itself: it's a big AAV, but it's for 8 years and will cover Vas from 26 to 34 years of age. Now. He's already a Vezina winner (two times Vezina finalist) and he's still not close to his ceiling. Considering that Goalies take more time developing and hit their prime in the late 20ies, and considering that the average contract AAV has exploded during this offseason, this deal is already a solid deal and will look like an amazing deal a couple years from now.
It's quite like the Kucherov deal. Sign him a season prior to his contract is up in order not to have the contract AAV go up even higher. Lightning definitely betting on Vas to getting even better and personally, having see him play since he was in the KHL, there's no doubt in my mind that he's far from his potential. He's been getting steadily better every season, these are the players that you are comfortable giving long term deals.

2) The Lightning cap situation: Tampa is now definitely in a pickle. But having Vas contract figured out gives the Lightning Front Office a better view for the projections and how to move in order to make it all fit under the cap.
But I sure as hell think that a move is in the making. Before next offseason ends, one of Palat or TyJo will be packing IMO
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Jul 29 at 10:18
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rangersandislesfan
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Quoting: SpaghettiPasta
It's almost 10 million, and for a team that wants to contend, that is to much, and to much term


I still think he's worth at least close to this.
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Jul 29 at 10:19
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The evil stats guy
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Why so many no votes? He's one of the best goalies in the league.


Have you seen the Gibson deal? That was considered market value at the time of signing, maybe a small discount if I'm being generous and he put up similar stats. He actually should have won the Vezina this year over Vasy.

This is too much for too long, full stop.


And even if it wasn't, you really shouldn't be paying goalies that much with term. 5 years is the max you should be giving out. The Andersen deal is more or less the ideal contract for a goalie
Jul 29 at 10:31
#21
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Lightning next year:
Vas, Stammer, Kuch, Point, no cap for the rest of the team
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Jul 29 at 10:33
#22
get off my lawn...
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Why so many no votes? He's one of the best goalies in the league.


Because this should have been shorter term for less money. I am going to take a look through some Tampa as from next year... I’m willing to bet no one had him at 9.5m...
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Jul 29 at 10:35
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Because this should have been shorter term for less money. I am going to take a look through some Tampa as from next year... I’m willing to bet no one had him at 9.5m...


I had him for 7 ish but on a 5 years deal. Now that he's won the Vezina, the AAV takes a hike and add the max term to it and you'll find yourself with this deal.
Jul 29 at 10:37
#24
I just need sauce
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
I still think he's worth at least close to this.


The term is so much though. And considering he has been on the a good team his entire career, we don't really know how good he is
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Jul 29 at 10:40
#25
get off my lawn...
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Quoting: Zwui21
I had him for 7 ish but on a 5 years deal. Now that he's won the Vezina, the AAV takes a hike and add the max term to it and you'll find yourself with this deal.


Took a look through some agm’s some leafs fan had him at 10m x 8 years and got ripped for it. Other than that everyone seems to have him at 8m or less. Even on an 8 year term.

Like I already posted earlier in an agm. It’s not horrible because it is an 8 year deal. But it certainly isn’t great either. I still think a 7-8m x 5 years would be a much better signing.
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