Lightning Trade

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Created by: tharrell

Team: 2019-20 Tampa Bay Lightning

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 29, 2019

Published: Jul. 29, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Do you think this is a fair return both ways?

The Lightning are in a bind until they are able to do something about Killorn, Palat and Johnson's NTC's. Zibanejad is on a great contract and Kreider likely walks in FA. As for the Rangers, They are certainly looking to retool, get younger and at a minimium move Kreider anyway.

As for the rest of the lineup, I really feel like Verhaeghe should and will get his chance in the lineup this season, after destroying the AHL. Like Barre Boulet too. Just not sure where to slot them in.

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST		YEARS	CAP HIT
Miller, K'Andre		3	$900,000

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Erne, Adam		2	$1,300,000

Trades

TBL

2021 6th round pick (SJS)

SJS

Domingue, Louis

TBL

NYR

Point, Brayden [RFA Rights]
2020 4th round pick (TBL)

Buyouts

Matthew Carle: $1,833,333
Vincent Lecavalier: $0

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$80,307,589	$0	$1,362,500	$1,192,411

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kreider, Chris $4,625,000$4,625,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Zibanejad, Mika $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Kucherov, Nikita $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW UFA - 8
Johnson, Tyler $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, C, LW NTC UFA - 5	Stamkos, Steven $8,500,000$8,500,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 5	Joseph, Mathieu $728,333$728,333 ($182,500$182K) LW, RW UFA - 1
Palat, Ondrej $5,300,000$5,300,000 LW, RW NTC UFA - 3	Cirelli, Anthony $728,333$728,333 ($182,500$182K) C, LW UFA - 1	Gourde, Yanni $5,166,666$5,166,666 C, LW, RW NTC UFA - 6
Killorn, Alex $4,450,000$4,450,000 RW, LW NTC UFA - 4	Paquette, Cédric $1,650,000$1,650,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2	Erne, Adam $1,300,000$1,300,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hedman, Victor $7,875,000$7,875,000 LD NMC UFA - 6	Sergachev, Mikhail $894,166$894,166 ($850,000$850K) LD/RD UFA - 1	Vasilevskiy, Andrei $3,500,000$3,500,000 G UFA - 1
McDonagh, Ryan $6,750,000$6,750,000 LD NTC UFA - 7	Cernak, Erik $697,500$697,500 ($147,500$148K) RD UFA - 1	McElhinney, Curtis $1,300,000$1,300,000 G UFA - 2
Coburn, Braydon $1,700,000$1,700,000 LD NTC UFA - 2	Rutta, Jan $1,300,000$1,300,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Verhaeghe, Carter $700,000$700,000 LW UFA - 1		Callahan, Ryan $5,800,000$5,800,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Barré-Boulet, Alex $759,258$759,258 RW, LW UFA - 2
Schenn, Luke $700,000$700,000 RD UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Stamkos, S.		Zibanejad, M.		Kucherov, N.
	Cirelli, A.		Hedman, V.

Power Play 2
Kreider, C.		Johnson, T.		Joseph, M.
	Gourde, Y.		Sergachev, M.

Jul. 29, 2019 at 6:26 p.m.

Bitemoi

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Absurd.

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Jul. 29, 2019 at 6:27 p.m.

GMs

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NY decline, not even close value. Zibanejad + Miller isnt worth Point. Zibanejad is on a friendly contract too

Jul. 29, 2019 at 6:30 p.m.

Widowmaker

Potvin Sucks

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No chance

Jul. 29, 2019 at 6:34 p.m.

Zwui21

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Quoting: GMs

NY decline, not even close value. Zibanejad + Miller isnt worth Point. Zibanejad is on a friendly contract too

HAHAHAHHA are you on drugs? Tampa is not trading a top 10 C in the league for that.

Jul. 29, 2019 at 6:39 p.m.

justaBoss

What in tarnation

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Quoting: Zwui21

HAHAHAHHA are you on drugs? Tampa is not trading a top 10 C in the league for that.

I think both teams consider it. Point is TOP10 C but Zibanejad is also extremely good and under a team-friendly contract, Miller's a great LHD prospect which TB doesn't really have much of and Kreider's a great rental asset.

It's clearly a better return for Point, if they end up losing him.

Jul. 29, 2019 at 6:43 p.m.

GMs

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Quoting: Zwui21

HAHAHAHHA are you on drugs? Tampa is not trading a top 10 C in the league for that.

NY have already cap problems and they gonna sign a center 10M ? They already have a 1st center getting paid 5.3M

Jul. 29, 2019 at 6:43 p.m.

aspina25

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The Rangers are already up against the cap. Why would they trade their best contract, another cheap contract and best defensive prospect for a marginal upgrade that will cost more money and leave holes in their offense?

Jul. 29, 2019 at 6:44 p.m.

TheChief

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Quoting: Zwui21

HAHAHAHHA are you on drugs? Tampa is not trading a top 10 C in the league for that.

Lmao how biased can any fan be

Jul. 29, 2019 at 6:56 p.m.

Zwui21

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Quoting: TheChief

Lmao how biased can any fan be

Fans can be biased, so what about the opinion of a Hall of Famer? www.theathletic.com/624688/2018/10/31/why-lightnings-brayden-point-is-definitely-a-top-10-center-in-nhl

Jul. 29, 2019 at 7:09 p.m.

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draft_em_sign_em_trade_em

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Point say hello to John Cullen.

Jul. 29, 2019 at 7:39 p.m.

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TheChief

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Quoting: Zwui21

Fans can be biased, so what about the opinion of a Hall of Famer? www.theathletic.com/624688/2018/10/31/why-lightnings-brayden-point-is-definitely-a-top-10-center-in-nhl

Not denying Point's level.

I'm laughing at your assessment of the value of this trade.

It's as biased it gets.

You'd make a great Habs fan.

Jul. 29, 2019 at 10:12 p.m.

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tharrell

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Quoting: aspina25

I think Point is very significant upgrade at C, and will continue to improve too, whereas it’s less likely Mika will. Related, and also worth considering, Point is 3 years younger. But you make a fair point. I think Points value is super high right now though.

Jul. 29, 2019 at 10:19 p.m.

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FiveForFighting

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Miller will be a stud. I think the 4th could be changed to a 2nd to make it even.

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Jul. 30, 2019 at 1:17 a.m.

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F3ruS

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Point stays in Tampa, stop this nonsense guys...

He stays even if it's 5 years @ 10million $$$... You guys talk & argue about trades, which have right now 0% chance of happening. This is just pointless...

Have u ever seen what Point brings to our team?I've seen more than 150 games.(without playoffs)
He is the last guy we trade away before UFA years... and yes that includes Kucherov. They are on the same level = unmovable players.

Like do you see Edmonton trading McGod? Or Penguins trading Crosby? We rather convince every single NTC guys to waive, then trade away our future.
If we trade away "declining offer sheet King" Point = our gm = fired...
Every tampa fan loves him and he loves tampa, loves the city, loves to play for the team, everything works. Why on earth anyone would want to break this up???

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Jul. 30, 2019 at 2:00 a.m.

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Zwui21

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Quoting: TheChief

Not denying Point's level.

I'm laughing at your assessment of the value of this trade.

It's as biased it gets.

You'd make a great Habs fan.

Well, if you think a rental + a C with 3 years left on his contract that has had his 1st impactful season after 6 years playing in the NHL + a B level prospect can get you a 23 years old with no arbitration rights that is poised to be a star for the next decade... I don't know what to tell you. Point is a game changer.

I'd probably make a great Habs fan, you probably wouldn't make a great GM

Jul. 30, 2019 at 2:40 a.m.

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tharrell

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Well somehow everyone either thinks that my proposed trade is way too favorable for NYR or for TBL. Maybe split the difference and that means its a perfect trade lmao

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