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Why does no one complain about the Matthew Contract

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Jul. 31, 2019 at 9:44 a.m.
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because he is pretty well a point a game player and a number 1 center, and a 30+ goal scorer
Jul. 31, 2019 at 9:44 a.m.
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Tbh idrc
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because he is pretty well a point a game player and a number 1 center.


So why are people complaining about marner wanting 5 year?
Jul. 31, 2019 at 9:46 a.m.
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Because hes a monster. Nobody will complain about Marner in 3 years too. Same way nobody complains about Eichel, Kane, etc. etc.
Jul. 31, 2019 at 9:47 a.m.
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Because hes a monster. Nobody will complain about Marner in 3 years too. Same way nobody complains about Eichel, Kane, etc. etc.


Yes I agree, I just dont understand how Marner is becoming the bad guy in this, when Matthews got exactly what he wanted
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Jul. 31, 2019 at 9:48 a.m.
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Yes I agree, I just dont understand how Marner is becoming the bad guy in this, when Matthews got exactly what he wanted


Because the leafs will be neck deep with 3 10mill plus salaries. They have to do it though imo.
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Jul. 31, 2019 at 9:52 a.m.
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Yes I agree, I just dont understand how Marner is becoming the bad guy in this, when Matthews got exactly what he wanted


Just wait until after he signs. No one will really care anymore. He'll sign, he'll produce and the leafs will win a lot of games. Then the media will fire up the fans in some other way and the legions of haters will pour their attention into chirping the Leafs and compound the problem that is Leafs Mania.
Jul. 31, 2019 at 9:54 a.m.
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So why are people complaining about marner wanting 5 year?


Because Marner doesn’t perform well enough to justify the contract that he wants, unlike Matthews who scores so many even strength goals not even Crosby has that amount.
Jul. 31, 2019 at 9:55 a.m.
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Because Marner doesn’t perform well enough to justify the contract that he wants, unlike Matthews who scores so many even strength goals not even Crosby has that amount.


Mitch marner put up 94 points, and stays healthy and plays in all situations pk etc
Jul. 31, 2019 at 9:56 a.m.
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Matthews had above ppg average and similar assists and goals while playing with two first-full-season mid-6 forwards who lack any sort of above average creativity and he was driving play on his line (also played with Marleau and Ennis to start the year and dominated) and despite month-long injury scored almost 40 goals.. He is a monster and one of the best players in the league. Thats why.

Marner was playing with one of the best players in the league for the whole season and wasnt driving his line at all. He helped to a certain point getting Tavares 47 goals because he was the best winger he played with. Marner deserves like 9mil on 6+yr deal and below 7.5 on 3yr deal. 4 and 5 yrs are not options other than nonexistent offersheet bs. And getting 10+ to Marner is equivalent of giving 7.5+ to Bailey basically.
Jul. 31, 2019 at 9:57 a.m.
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Yes I agree, I just dont understand how Marner is becoming the bad guy in this, when Matthews got exactly what he wanted


Cause small players are considered soft (even though AM34 can't stay healthy). Same reason a lot of them turned on Will Ny the Hockey Guy.
Jul. 31, 2019 at 9:57 a.m.
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Cause marner is the number one concern lol
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Jul. 31, 2019 at 9:57 a.m.
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Matthews had above ppg average and similar assists and goals while playing with two first-full-season mid-6 forwards who lack any sort of above average creativity and he was driving play on his line (also played with Marleau and Ennis to start the year and dominated) and despite month-long injury scored almost 40 goals.. He is a monster and one of the best players in the league. Thats why.

Marner was playing with one of the best players in the league for the whole season and wasnt driving his line at all. He helped to a certain point getting Tavares 47 goals because he was the best winger he played with. Marner deserves like 9mil on 6+yr deal and below 7.5 on 3yr deal. 4 and 5 yrs are not options other than nonexistent offersheet bs. And getting 10+ to Marner is equivalent of giving 7.5+ to Bailey basically.


I can't stand those 94 point season passengers.
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Jul. 31, 2019 at 9:58 a.m.
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Matthews had above ppg average and similar assists and goals while playing with two first-full-season mid-6 forwards who lack any sort of above average creativity and he was driving play on his line (also played with Marleau and Ennis to start the year and dominated) and despite month-long injury scored almost 40 goals.. He is a monster and one of the best players in the league. Thats why.

Marner was playing with one of the best players in the league for the whole season and wasnt driving his line at all. He helped to a certain point getting Tavares 47 goals because he was the best winger he played with. Marner deserves like 9mil on 6+yr deal and below 7.5 on 3yr deal. 4 and 5 yrs are not options other than nonexistent offersheet bs. And getting 10+ to Marner is equivalent of giving 7.5+ to Bailey basically.


I remember in points of the season listening to hockey experts talk about how matthews needs good players around him, and how he is unable to drive the play on his line like other greats like Crosby, mcdavid....

Marner 100% drives the play, when i think of scariest leafs i think of marner, Similar to how kuzy is scarier than ovi...

marner also plays in all situations of the game, and stays healthy
Jul. 31, 2019 at 9:59 a.m.
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I can't stand those 94 point season passengers.


Im certainly not saying he is passenger lol. Put Nylander in his spot to Tavares and on PP1 for the whole year and Nylander would get 90+ points too. Point is.. this is not about points. Marner is great talent but he is not worth 10+ even on 7-8yr deal..
Jul. 31, 2019 at 10:01 a.m.
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Also matts was gonna leave for Arizona in free agency anyway so they just wanna enjoy his services while they can
Jul. 31, 2019 at 10:02 a.m.
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Also matts was gonna leave for Arizona in free agency anyway so they just wanna enjoy his services while they can


Nope.
Jul. 31, 2019 at 10:03 a.m.
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Im certainly not saying he is passenger lol. Put Nylander in his spot to Tavares and on PP1 for the whole year and Nylander would get 90+ points too. Point is.. this is not about points. Marner is great talent but he is not worth 10+ even on 7-8yr deal..


You basically are saying he is a passenger though...
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Jul. 31, 2019 at 10:04 a.m.
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Nope.


He’ll leave
Jul. 31, 2019 at 10:05 a.m.
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I remember in points of the season listening to hockey experts talk about how matthews needs good players around him, and how he is unable to drive the play on his line like other greats like Crosby, mcdavid....

Marner 100% drives the play, when i think of scariest leafs i think of marner, Similar to how kuzy is scarier than ovi...

marner also plays in all situations of the game, and stays healthy


Those hockey experts are also saying that Marner would sign offersheet and deserves same money as Matthews. Do you really consider them experts? Be honest. Tavares drives the line there. Marner doesnt but as I said, he is talented player with a lot of skill, but he is not 10+ great. Matthews is driving his line. He didnt have good players to lift him up and he still had above ppg average. Nylander and Matthews are gonna dominate next year.

As for WSH.. Kuzy is also great player just like Marner is, but when Ovi puts the show on, he is the best player on ice by miles. Same goes to Matthews. Matthews is the scariest leaf imo, second is Tavares and maybe third Marner.

Yes thats truth Marner plays all situations and is healthier and even after those things Matthews is much better than him.
Jul. 31, 2019 at 10:05 a.m.
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I remember in points of the season listening to hockey experts talk about how matthews needs good players around him, and how he is unable to drive the play on his line like other greats like Crosby, mcdavid....

Marner 100% drives the play, when i think of scariest leafs i think of marner, Similar to how kuzy is scarier than ovi...

marner also plays in all situations of the game, and stays healthy


You realise that all evidence contradicts what you've said here right?
Marner is a fantastic player, but JT inflated his point totals and those are the primary argument for his being worth a ton. JT drove the hell out of that line and marner was just the set up man (who didn't even do that good a job as the season progressed).
Jul. 31, 2019 at 10:06 a.m.
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He’ll leave


He will not leave.. He is gonna be Leaf for life.
Jul. 31, 2019 at 10:07 a.m.
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Mitch marner put up 94 points, and stays healthy and plays in all situations pk etc


except a lot of that was because of JT. It's not a coincidence marner put up bigger numbers last year, after seeing players like bailey, moulson, and okposo get 20 to 30 point bumps playing with JT.

Marner is flashy, but JT drives that line.
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Jul. 31, 2019 at 10:07 a.m.
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You realise that all evidence contradicts what you've said here right?
Marner is a fantastic player, but JT inflated his point totals and those are the primary argument for his being worth a ton. JT drove the hell out of that line and marner was just the set up man (who didn't even do that good a job as the season progressed).


OOF 94 points isnt that good of a job, am I ever confused
Jul. 31, 2019 at 10:08 a.m.
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Mitch marner put up 94 points, and stays healthy and plays in all situations pk etc


Because Matthews is a goal scoring c who has produced at superstar levels himself. And there was PRECEDENCE.

Marner was a borderline Allstar until he got a superstar c and the largest contract ever given to a winger off ELC in this CBA made 7.5 million for 8 years (Tarasenko) and he was a goal scorer who did it without any other superstars.
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