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Garett Sparks Controversy

Aug 1 at 10:59
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What is your opinion regarding Garett Sparks’ time in Toronto and how would you describe the comments he made and overall attitude?

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Aug 1 at 11:29
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Quoting: BrandonDubinskyGOAT
What is your opinion regarding Garett Sparks’ time in Toronto and how would you describe the comments he made and overall attitude?

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Justified... he was deployed like a rented mule. There were atleast 2-3 games last season where he should have started the first of the back to back games. Then about another 7-8 starts he should of saw. He is basically an nhl rookie. Not a seasoned vet like Mac. Can’t just throw him to the lions. Hope he does well in Vegas.
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Aug 1 at 12:27
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Justified... he was deployed like a rented mule. There were atleast 2-3 games last season where he should have started the first of the back to back games. Then about another 7-8 starts he should of saw. He is basically an nhl rookie. Not a seasoned vet like Mac. Can’t just throw him to the lions. Hope he does well in Vegas.


Yeah I agree, he should’ve played when he had weaker opponents. However, in my opinion he still got his opportunities to play. Two times against the worst team in the league (Sens), he single handedly blew those games.
Aug 1 at 12:29
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Quoting: BrandonDubinskyGOAT
Yeah I agree, he should’ve played when he had weaker opponents. However, in my opinion he still got his opportunities to play. Two times against the worst team in the league (Sens), he single handedly blew those games.


Not much of a team infront of him either, believe they were back to backs. He certainly could have done better. Think he just needs to settle in and get some confidence.
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Aug 1 at 12:41
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Not much of a team infront of him either, believe they were back to backs. He certainly could have done better. Think he just needs to settle in and get some confidence.


Well he actually didn’t have a large workload in those games. Let in some soft goals and the team worked hard to get back into the game, only for him to let in another howler. Yet afterward he goes out to the media and calls out his teammates for doing a bad job when he himself wasn’t great. Poor attitude.
Aug 1 at 1:38
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he was fine up until he got dinged in the head

not losing sleep over a backup
Aug 1 at 1:38
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he was fine up until he got dinged in the head

not losing sleep over a backup


But would you say his .900 save percentage before the concussion was good?
Aug 1 at 1:43
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But would you say his .900 save percentage before the concussion was good?


he was 6-1-1 irrc, which blows a whole in the "he always got the short end of the stick" argument. he was fine when the team wasn't rested in front of him, and being 0.900 is pretty good for that.

he got knocked and it would've made sense to send him back to the marlies for a bit. dubas stuck with him longer than he should have, gave him an one-way extension, and sent him to a team where he could prove his worth again. he thanks this by being a twit.
Aug 1 at 2:36
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Quoting: mondo
he was 6-1-1 irrc, which blows a whole in the "he always got the short end of the stick" argument. he was fine when the team wasn't rested in front of him, and being 0.900 is pretty good for that.

he got knocked and it would've made sense to send him back to the marlies for a bit. dubas stuck with him longer than he should have, gave him an one-way extension, and sent him to a team where he could prove his worth again. he thanks this by being a twit.


Exactly, the Leafs organization gave him every opportunity. He is such an ungrateful ****, I hope he fails in VGK which will probably be the case. Can’t wait to see who he’s going to turn his back against next.
Aug 1 at 2:39
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@mondo @Jamiepo What is your opinion on Ben Harpur?
Aug 2 at 10:48
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Huh, this was interesting to read, never saw the news article.
Aug 2 at 11:38
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Huh, this was interesting to read, never saw the news article.


Check Twitter and Sportsnet.
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Aug 2 at 11:41
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@BuFfaLOFaN What is your opinion on Conor Sheary? Is he trash?
Aug 2 at 2:28
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Quoting: BrandonDubinskyGOAT
@BuFfaLOFaN What is your opinion on Conor Sheary? Is he trash?


He is possed to bounce back next year I think he had a down year adjusting to a new system
Aug 2 at 4:33
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He is possed to bounce back next year I think he had a down year adjusting to a new system


Yeah I’ll be honest, as a Pens fan, I think that’s as good as he gets. He’ll only score around 15-20 goals a season plus add some solid forechecking and possession driving skills.
Aug 10 at 6:15
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He did himself no favors by speaking out publicly about his teammates.
Should have been done privately behind closed doors.
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Aug 10 at 6:24
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Justified... he was deployed like a rented mule. There were atleast 2-3 games last season where he should have started the first of the back to back games. Then about another 7-8 starts he should of saw. He is basically an nhl rookie. Not a seasoned vet like Mac. Can’t just throw him to the lions. Hope he does well in Vegas.


I don't think he was wrong in how he felt about the défense in front of him late in the season, it's just how he went about expressing himself as @Trickster pointed out.
Saying things privately to his team mates would not have made this a big deal.
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Aug 10 at 8:05
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He did himself no favors by speaking out publicly about his teammates.
Should have been done privately behind closed doors.


He had no right to even be speaking about them like that. Sure their play in front of him wasn’t perfect, but they fought back each time after he allowed a howler and managed to score some goals to make the game closer. The players on this team gave him a chance to win, but he was ungrateful.
Aug 10 at 8:08
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I don't think he was wrong in how he felt about the défense in front of him late in the season, it's just how he went about expressing himself as @Trickster pointed out.
Saying things privately to his team mates would not have made this a big deal.


Sparks needs to look at himself in the mirror and realize that he is amongst the problems himself. There must be a reason why every time Andersen plays, the team does well on a consistent basis, but whenever Sparks starts, he lets in a bunch of soft goals. He is simply not NHL quality.
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Aug 10 at 9:17
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Quoting: BrandonDubinskyGOAT
Sparks needs to look at himself in the mirror and realize that he is amongst the problems himself. There must be a reason why every time Andersen plays, the team does well on a consistent basis, but whenever Sparks starts, he lets in a bunch of soft goals. He is simply not NHL quality.


Look, Andersen is head and shoulders above Sparks in the talent category so let's not make that comparasion. I watching those late season games that Sparks started and maybe he could have had 1-2 the shots that ended up as goals but there's no question that the team could have played much better défense in front of their rookie backup goalie.

There's no disagreement about how Sparks should have handled things after the fact...but the defense particularly was bad in front of Sparks late last season.
Aug 10 at 11:10
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Look, Andersen is head and shoulders above Sparks in the talent category so let's not make that comparasion. I watching those late season games that Sparks started and maybe he could have had 1-2 the shots that ended up as goals but there's no question that the team could have played much better défense in front of their rookie backup goalie.

There's no disagreement about how Sparks should have handled things after the fact...but the defense particularly was bad in front of Sparks late last season.


The reason why the team tends to play worse when Sparks is in goal compared to Andersen is because of these reasons:

1. Sparks’ poise is lacking. He is always making unnecessary and sudden movement around the crease making it very unpredictable and difficult for the skaters to move the puck in front of him.
2. His positioning. Pure garbage, most times he makes himself look so small when he faces a shot, no wonder he lets in so many soft goals.
3. His poor rebound control. Every time he makes a save on an easy shot, he can’t control the rebound and always gives it away in dangerous areas. The responsibility of allowing goals falls on the goalie as well, when he can’t settle a shot and play it out of danger, there’s only so much the defense can do to suppress and bail him out.

Ultimately, the main reason of Sparks’ failures falls on himself. His attitude was poor the whole season, every time he spoke out he was blaming others in the organization for not giving him a chance to succeed. He was not a team player, so why should we expect his teammates to turn up in front of him?
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Aug 11 at 2:53
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Quoting: BrandonDubinskyGOAT
The reason why the team tends to play worse when Sparks is in goal compared to Andersen is because of these reasons:

1. Sparks’ poise is lacking. He is always making unnecessary and sudden movement around the crease making it very unpredictable and difficult for the skaters to move the puck in front of him.
2. His positioning. Pure garbage, most times he makes himself look so small when he faces a shot, no wonder he lets in so many soft goals.
3. His poor rebound control. Every time he makes a save on an easy shot, he can’t control the rebound and always gives it away in dangerous areas. The responsibility of allowing goals falls on the goalie as well, when he can’t settle a shot and play it out of danger, there’s only so much the defense can do to suppress and bail him out.

Ultimately, the main reason of Sparks’ failures falls on himself. His attitude was poor the whole season, every time he spoke out he was blaming others in the organization for not giving him a chance to succeed. He was not a team player, so why should we expect his teammates to turn up in front of him?


He's a young goalie. All young goalies have these issues, some more than others..you're just angry he mouthed off to the media about things he should have kept between him and team mates...I get it.

Hope this is a learning expérience for young Woll who was with the team during that time.
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Aug 11 at 7:54
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He's a young goalie. All young goalies have these issues, some more than others..you're just angry he mouthed off to the media about things he should have kept between him and team mates...I get it.

Hope this is a learning expérience for young Woll who was with the team during that time.


There are many young goalies in the league, yet you don’t see them complaining like this all the time when their team hangs them out to dry. I remember the 2016 Eastern Conference Finals, game 3. Vasilevsky stood on his head that game and faced 58 shots, they lost the game 4-2. He was frustrated and snapped his stick in half but he didn’t say anything about his teammates afterward.
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