Edited Sep. 5, 2019 at 4:18 a.m.
Quoting: franky_22
You can think that as you want... but the reality is that Tyler Johnson has had ONE big season in his career with 72 points in 2014-15. Since then, he's just became who he is: a good average player with 45 pts/year production. His overall playing time has dropped to around 15 minutes/game Vs. 18 to 19 minutes/game years before. His production in the playoffs has also dropped considerably. I still prefer to keep a 21 y.o. Tyson Jost and his big potential with everything to prove instead of an average Tyler Johnson.
I don't think anything, those are facts. Not my opinion at all. I looked at both players carefully with advanced stats, like the trade opener probably also did. Johnson = solid player, Jost = mediocre player.
Trade makes sense in the future like this, because tampa will need more cap space... AVS gets a really solid player, which fits into the team for next couple years, if not they can trade him away in 3 years at age of 31...
You still have no idea what you talking about, i guess you don't watch
games at all...
Don't focus that much on age, focus on what the team is achieving with what players, which is:
all time regular season wins record and Tyler Johnson was a big part of that, not declining at all, really good at offense. He didn't need assists, because others were providing it for him... So he had a perfect season basically... noone wanted him to be 60 goal + 70 assists guy, we didn't even need his 30 goals, it was that easy of a season for us... we coasted for 62 wins... He didn't even played on the pp1 line... = lot less points than on any other team he would have provided...
Playoff run whole team failed, nothing to do with TJ or about your "imaginary decline"...
His contract also alright for the future. Small guys age well, and he is fast. It's a beneficial trade for both teams. I will watch this year Jost 82 games+, but i suspect he will never reach anything close to what you imagine. He is not MacKinnon nor ever will be.
I've just became an
fan, but i would really like to see what TJ can do there. Would be fun, for sure, but you will never understand that, because you think Tyler Johnson = Milan Lucic and he will achive 10 goals and 8 assists next year, then retire and Tyler Johnson will be one of the worst player with the worst contract in NHL history... In your dreamworld...
On the other hand, magic happens and Jost becomes the "best player ever" on an entry level contract, when his advanced stats are below average and nothing suggest he will become the next big thing in the NHL... i wish he would... in that case you can have a clause in the trade... if Jost reaches 60 points with tampa in one of the next 2 seasons, avalanche gets a 2nd round pick back...
Tampa = best offense team = 60 points super easy for Jost right?
Also you have no idea how tampa works, we are rolling with 4 lines. That's balance, not limiting players due to "your imaginary decline"...
TJ had the 4th most playing time on our offense, "such limited playtime"
and also only "imaginary 40 games" because of decline right in 2018/2019 season right???, again super limited... right, right, right???
still what u wrote is pure garbage in your 2nd comment and im done with you explaining basic stuff... this is not kindergarten... you have no idea how nhl works...
Just "ONE big season" for Johnson:
68 playoff games - 51 points
BUT IT'S "JUST ONE BIG SEASON" FOR SURE versus complete garbage teams in the playoffs RIGHT????
Jost > (Johnson declining grandpa & limited playing time)
In 1 year Artemi Panarin 29 years old:
just made a contract: 11.6 million @ 6 years total, from that age - what a freakin decline they are expecting from him, when they offered for him almost the best contract in the NHL. "HUGE DECLINE" incoming... and they will limit his playing time by 2.5 minutes... he will be so old... in your dreamworld... in 1 year... for ARTEMI PANARIN as well. such decline... such wow... so much truth... such wasted money right???
just offered Pavelski 35 years old grandpa 7 million $ contract @ 3 years... again such limited playing time and declining player... like Tyler Johnson... just average ... thats why they play on 1st or 2nd line... because all of these players are so average... and thats why they earn more than 1 million $... such average old players...
...unlike Jost, who is the next "Superstar"... book it boys...