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Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 2, 2019
Published: Aug. 2, 2019
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Aug. 2, 2019 at 11:39 a.m.
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IF this is somehow truthful (I doubt btw).. Id just trade him. Giving him 3M more than he deserves on that term is so wrong.
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Aug. 2, 2019 at 11:40 a.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
IF this is somehow truthful (I doubt btw).. Id just trade him. Giving him 3M more than he deserves on that term is so wrong.


The athletic reported it
Aug. 2, 2019 at 11:42 a.m.
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The athletic reported it


I know. Its from James, but it still might be bull****. If this is true and he declined that offer, he should pack his **** because he is going.
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Aug. 2, 2019 at 11:43 a.m.
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I know. Its from James, but it still might be bull****. If this is true and he declined that offer, he should pack his **** because he is going.


I trust James and I’d ship him out too
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Aug. 2, 2019 at 11:43 a.m.
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probably going to abstain from leafs news for the next month because it's going to be just this ****.
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Aug. 2, 2019 at 11:46 a.m.
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probably going to abstain from leafs news for the next month because it's going to be just this ****.


I don’t blame you but I like following the “Drama”
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Aug. 2, 2019 at 11:47 a.m.
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Confirmed that marner wants 5 year term and thats whats most important to him
Aug. 2, 2019 at 11:47 a.m.
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I know. Its from James, but it still might be bull****. If this is true and he declined that offer, he should pack his **** because he is going.


I am at the point where I have just accepted that Mitch will be badly overpaid. I think ultimately it is just a matter of how badly he gets overpaid. I still hold steady in my old projections for his worth being ~8@8.75, maybe the only change being 6 years instead of 8 after the Aho deal. It is why I am all for a bridge deal as opposed to a 6 year contract as I am still not sure Marner is better than Nylander. Currently the difference is one hot season and one cold season where everything is screaming that both will majorly regress. Get a bridge, bet on a Nylander regression and renegotiate after having that comparable on the team. We can afford 3@9 for the next few years even if it is an over-payment, so it has to be the only real possibility moving forward.
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Aug. 2, 2019 at 11:49 a.m.
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Quoting: CBJ4CUP
Confirmed that marner wants 5 year term and thats whats most important to him


Unfortunately he’s not going to get it from Toronto
Aug. 2, 2019 at 11:51 a.m.
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Unfortunately he’s not going to get it from Toronto


why not
Aug. 2, 2019 at 11:52 a.m.
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why not


Cause they don’t want him going to ufa with Matthews and nylander
Aug. 2, 2019 at 11:54 a.m.
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why not


They don't want to pull a Columbus and have their three best players all leave as UFAs in the same year.
Aug. 2, 2019 at 11:55 a.m.
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Cause they don’t want him going to ufa with Matthews and nylander


Yeah I know they dont want too, but they also didnt want to give matthews a 5 year deal and they did
Aug. 2, 2019 at 11:55 a.m.
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They don't want to pull a Columbus and have their three best players all leave as UFAs in the same year.


I know why you wouldnt, but it doesnt always work out the way u want too
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Aug. 2, 2019 at 11:56 a.m.
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Just want to put people's minds at ease here. As of today, at no point have the Maple Leafs offered Mitch Marner $10 million AAV on a 3 year deal. Whatever James may or may not have gotten, as far as information, has come from the Marner camp, not the Toronto side of things. Darren Ferris is a self-proclaimed master at spreading lies about his players, so even if James did receive this information from Marner's agent, I can tell you with 100% certainty, it is not true.
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Aug. 2, 2019 at 11:57 a.m.
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Yeah I know they dont want too, but they also didnt want to give matthews a 5 year deal and they did


Exactly and they have no choice now not to now
Aug. 2, 2019 at 11:58 a.m.
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Exactly and they have no choice now not to now


Why?
Aug. 2, 2019 at 11:59 a.m.
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Just want to put people's minds at ease here. As of today, at no point have the Maple Leafs offered Mitch Marner $10 million AAV on a 3 year deal. Whatever James may or may not have gotten, as far as information, has come from the Marner camp, not the Toronto side of things. Darren Ferris is a self-proclaimed master at spreading lies about his players, so even if James did receive this information from Marner's agent, I can tell you with 100% certainty, it is not true.


No offence but you have no evidence to prove what you just said
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Aug. 2, 2019 at 11:59 a.m.
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Why?

Cause it’ll be Columbus 2.0 and he’s not worth 8.5+ on a 3 year let alone 10+
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Aug. 2, 2019 at 12:00 p.m.
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No offence but you have no evidence to prove what you just said


How stupid would The Office be, if they truly offered him 8 x 10M and now they would went with 3 x 10M....comeon.....
Aug. 2, 2019 at 12:00 p.m.
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Cause it’ll be Columbus 2.0 and he’s not worth 8.5+ on a 3 year let alone 10+


yeah but thats the situation they are in... Leafs may have to just do 5 years and figure it out once they get there... 5 years is a long time
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Aug. 2, 2019 at 12:00 p.m.
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IF this is somehow truthful (I doubt btw).. Id just trade him. Giving him 3M more than he deserves on that term is so wrong.


You're IQ is incredibly low to think Marner is worth 7M
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Aug. 2, 2019 at 12:00 p.m.
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As much as he's technically going to be overpaid based on what we've seen other teams do, one thing is for sure IF you are going to overpay someone, make sure it's a 21 year old superstar.

I don't think the Leafs would get back true value if they trade him and if he's this good at 21. Imagine at 25....... 11M a year is too much I know but you won't be too sad when he's scoring 100 points a season as a Leaf for the first time since Gilmour and Sittler before him.

So you only can sign him 5 years? So what?
Aug. 2, 2019 at 12:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Laudan
How stupid would The Office be, if they truly offered him 8 x 10M and now they would went with 3 x 10M....comeon.....


They want to sign him. Every gm makes bad decisions
Aug. 2, 2019 at 12:01 p.m.
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No offence but you have no evidence to prove what you just said


You can choose to believe me or not, I really don't care, I am just telling you the facts of the situation.
 
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