Let me stop you right there and tell you the avs do not have blue line issues. find another team to dump jj to.

Lol. When did Jack Johnson become physical? He was always soft in Columbus and soft in LA before that. Also Colorado doesn’t need Johnson, and the 3 guys you named are all better and I believe younger then Jack is. I think Pittsburgh is stuck with him, or they’ll have to pay someone to take him.

Yeah Girard, Makar, EJ, Zadorov, Timmins, Cole, Barberio, and Byram are a group that definitely needs a JJ

Lol they picked up like 3 other defense who are at the same level as jack johnson for that reason. You need to take another look

you clearly didn't read. Cole had surgery on both hips, not expected to start the season, he's unknown if he'll even play this year or if he does what he'll look like..
EJ had shoulder surgery, not expected to start the season.
They will have issues on their 3rd pairing. So please come back to reality.

Johnson has always been physical. All he does is hit people and block shots.

In this reality JJ is apparently a competent NHL player?

And of course I didn't read your essay. You didn't follow proper APA formatting.

JJ isn't a bad player on his natural side. Especially when he plays on the 3rd pairing.
Penguins played him on the R side and on the 2nd pairing last year.
If you watched hockey you would know that.
He's serviceable in limited role on his natural side. And for 1-2 years it's a solid move. You dump him to seattle who you have to give a player and a sweetener keep off your good players after that.
This is not a long term deal, it's short term to help fill the gap, they can easily do this and it's worth the effort.

JJ hasn't been serviceable in like 7 years...

If he was you wouldn't dump him for a 7th and every PIT ACGM wouldn't be focused on dumping him.

Was going to chirp but I see you fellas got it well in hand. Carry on

So colorado should give up a 7th and take his contract for short term and then add in a sweetener to seattle for them to take jj... do you see where youve messed this up. JJ hasnt been good for a few years. ide rather pay mcquaid 750k take kevan miller with a bum knee, or john moore before i took jj.

The penguins would keep him if it wasn't for cap issues. You have to make a cut somewhere when you are against the cap. 3 teams chased him last year in the off season, don't tell me he isn't serviceable, if he wasn't that wouldn't have happened . He got placed out of position last year on the Right side, he should have never been there. In like 20 some games on the LHD side last year he ended up a +16 and had 233 hits and 147 shot blocks. Don't tell me your 3rd pairing couldn't use that. It could. Especially if it's cheaper than Cole who might spend the year on LTIR. Hell with 500k retained you are looking at 2.7 million. It's not a bad idea for colorado who's looking for that kind of player on it's 3rd pairing. Right now they are looking at starting Connauton who has some sketchy playing time of the past few years and Graves who has spent most of his time in the AHL.

McQuaid has off season surgery good luck on that. That's why no one has signed him.
Moore isn't a bad option, but he lacks the physicality you would get from JJ. Which is one of the reasons they brought in Cole.

And Colorado is going to give up to Seattle anyway, that's how expansion drafts work. This way they get something out of it.

Okay now I am just concerned with your mental health.

Girard, Byram, Makar and Timmins will be the strongest top 4 in the league in 2-3 years. Especially if they have the cap to keep Cole on the 3rd pairing they could possibly have the best D in the league at that point.

you seem to think this is some conversation about the future. It's not. It's this year and possibly next. That's it.
Byram and Timmins won't be suiting up this year, and probably not next year either.

Why are you always so aggressive? Even if the Avalanche do have issues on defence with Cole out for the season, they can slot in Byram and Timmins, both better options than JJ.

Girard-Johnson
Zadorov-Makar
Byram-Timmins

A very solid blueline if anything.

Even if Byram and Timmins suit up next season, they would do better than JJ.

She’s right about JJ being physical and a good shot blocker, but that’s about it. Honestly, don’t even debate with @pharrow. Every time you disagree with her, she becomes so aggressive and ends up bashing you. I think she may be left handed and have autism, since these types of people commonly behave this way.

All reports are that Cole will be back by December, so you are overstating his situation.
Not sure about your information on EJ. Latest reports are he will be ready for opening day.
Girard-EJ and Zadorov-Makar are set for the top 2 lines.
They can easily make a serviceable 3rd line from Barberio, Graves, Connauton, Timmins, Byram, Rosen, and Meloche until Cole comes back.
Byram will most likely suit up for the first 9 games. If he shows he's ready he will stay, otherwise he'll go back to juniors.
Timmins will most likely start in the AHL until he's in game shape and could then be called up.
The last thing they need is an aging LD (they have LD galore. It's RD they are a little short on) with 4 more years on his contract.

Byram and Timmins aren't playing this year. You arrogently come at me and then you act like "why are you so aggressive" take your passive aggressive ass else where.

At best Cole will be back in december but you don't know what you will get out of him. I'm not over stating his situation. Players don't typically come back well right after surgery. Let alone on both hips.
It takes time to fully heal and the hip is a much harder issue than say a knee or an ankle.

You clearly didn't pay attention to the points being made. No one ever stated this is a long term solution, and they are keeping him for 4 years. That was never and is not the point here. They can clearly dump out of this easily in 2 years. You list 2 players that won't play this year, and a whole bunch of basically nothing. Guys who are older and spent most of their time in the AHL.

Even if Cole did come back 100% in December which is unlikely you are talking about 3 months worth of games. It's almost 1/2 the season. If you get the LTIR on him for that, and you get JJ at 2.7 you are looking at adding a very small cap hit to have him fill in.
If worst comes to worst next year you bury him as depth for 1 year at 1.7 million cap hit next year, which is nothing, and then send him to Seattle as the player they have to take off the roster when they pay Seattle to not take their other players, that is if someone else doesn't grab him on waivers from you to be their stop gap for that year.

Stop listening to trolls on here and think about it logically for a second. It's getting a guy you know can come in and play that physical role and block those shots for basically nothing for the year. A role the other people listed above really don't do, or haven't done on the NHL level. As is their options are AHL tweeners and guys with sketchy starting records.
It costs COL basically nothing, it doesn't really effect their cap, but gives them more depth.

hahah you think Avs have Blue Line issues and think JJ is worth dumping on to replace Cole.

Avs have 0 blue line issues, even if they did feel like they could use an additional short term, there are guys like Gardiner, Shattenkirk, Hutton. Delusional take and rational if you think Avs want anything do with a bad dman on a TERRIBLE contract like JJ

The idea of having COL dump Johnson to Seattle is just ridiculous considering how many good choices Seattle has to pick from there. The package COL would have to send to Seattle has to exceed the value of the player Seattle would draft from there, making this completely useless. They'd waste $6,5M in cap space for two years and then they'd have to pay to get rid of him. It's a f*ck-barrel, and Pens are the only winner here, since they don't have to give up anything to get rid of him, but COL has to.

that's nonsense. Vegas took a lot of players that were junk for a pick. Because they had to take someone and that's how teams work it out. Colorado is giving that up anyway, which is the part you are unwilling to admit. At a minimum they will give up a 2nd to keep Seattle off players they want to keep. What do they get for the 2nd, a 2.7 million cap dump because seattle HAS to pick A player. It's fair.
On top of it, saying COL got nothing is clearly untrue. They get a fill in guy to come in and play who is easily movable and at a low cap hit. It costs COL virtually nothing the 1st year as the replacement is basically the cost of the LTIR on Cole. The second year is 1.7 roughly on the cap if sent down, with the hopes someone else in the same boat aka needing a replacement for 1 year picks him up. Given how things go he may actually stay that year in COL if he plays well. He is going to end up in Seattle everyone knows this. Seattle gets a pick, and a defense man at 2.7 million for 2 years. That's not a huge cap dump or issue.
You make this out to be more than it is. It's 2 years tops. It costs virtually nothing, and it fills a hole which right now looks very uncertain.