I’m fine with that marner deal. I was saying at the beginning 9-9.5 and everyone was yelling at me every time I said it and calling me dumb but it’s literally our reality

On a bridge deal that is probably a little high, but Mitch Marner is a 9 million dollar player. The Leafs believed a year ago he wasn't worth that, but surely they have to accept he is now.

Marner is at his best a 25 goal and 80 assist guy. He is a prolific playmaker, he is Patrick Kane minus the goal scoring that Kane has.

Look even leaving the amount out of this. I don't see him signing a 3 year deal. I think you are looking at 4 years. Why would he want to go through this again? He'd rather next time to be a free agent. So would you if you were in his shoes.

Pat kane came out of his ELC with 230 points. His next contract was 6.3m for 5 years which was 11.06% of the cap. Marner came out with 224 points in 3 less games. Not a huge difference. If he signed a 5 year deal for the same cap% it would be 9.01m. Leafs obviously don’t want 5 years so 3 would work. Marner seems fine with a 3 year deal considering he just offered one to Toronto. it would have to be a little less money but probably not by much to make it fair because of a shorter term so wouldn’t a 3 year deal around 8.5-8.75 be fair.

They wont offer 4 years just because of free agency. the deal will either be 2,3, or 6 years.

I love the idea of getting shatty, Marner deal is fair, Bracco probably doesnt make it this year because depth but maybe in the 2021 season or makes an appearance during this season. overall solid.

See I think this is the real hang up. I think the number isn't the issue, they can figure that out and probably already have.
You have players signing this 5 year deals, like AM did. You look at AM deal and he expires UFA.
I think Marner wants the same thing. He wants to expire a UFA. He does not want to go through RFA again. I don't see him signing a 6 year deal, without Toronto paying a premium for him, because he knows that's taking years off his UFA.
For Marner the minimum deal is 4 years. Anything above that he probably wants paid for it.
My guess is this team is going to meet in the middle. 5 year deal, 10.2 to 10.5 range.

58 million for 6 years (9.666 per season), he'll be able to know for sure what Matthews signed for and if he stays and in 6 years his linemate J.T. is also UFA. so once again Marner will know which direction the Leafs will go. Remember even the Great One got screwed by UFA, he signed with the Rangers to buddy up with Messier (one season, Final 4 appearance) only to watch the Mess leave and the Rangers go into rebuild mode.

Heres the thing, not all RFA's are signing 5 year deals. The main thing is that Dubas is totally steering the boat and from the Nylander holdout shows that Dubas will have tons of patience trying to get his number. Now im not saying Dubas will get the number leafs fans dream of but lets look at the facts, no one has said Marner wants a 5-year deal, he wants to be a leaf we know this because he wouldnt agree to some offer sheets just because the marner camp thought the leafs wouldn't match. Marner also appears to not want a longer term deal (7 or 8). The leafs wont sign 4 years simply for UFA reasons, 5 years means signing Matthews, Nylander, AND Marner on the same offseason. Another thing is that Darren Ferris does this EVERY time and suddenly signs near camp, asking outragous numbers (take Johnny Gaudreau for example). My guess is a 6 year deal at 9.56, the leafs will not sign anywhere NEAR 10 if thats what they were offering for 8 years.

Nevermind the Leafs, walking any player to UFA status is dumb for any team. Carolina did not have a choice as far as Aho goes since their hand got forced by Montreal.
Marner does not have the leverage so if he doesn't want to go through the RFA thing again he will have to give up at least one UFA year.
He's welcome to sit the year or sign whatever offer sheet is out there but he won't be happy based on all that's been said from his side.

Leafs analyst Rahef Issa said that Bracco is ready to replace Marner full time.

Well, Kane scored a lot of goals plus played in the dead tree stay at home defenseman era.

Yeah minus the sniping ability and stick handling, he is right-handed Patrick Kane. Last summer, Marner's dad suggested the Leafs give Marner an 8 year deal worth 72 million. The Leafs turned it down and offered 7 million instead.

That's just it, Marner does have the leverage to get the term he wants. Just like Matthews did. If it was all about a number don't you think Matthews would have signed 8 years. But he didn't. That would have been ideal for the team, but that's not what happened.
Also, no one knows what OS Marner was offered or not offered, so lets not even go there. It's all speculation.
The point being I don't see him wanting to go through RFA again. Which is why I said this is going to meet somewhere in the middle. There is no doubt his best case is a 4 year deal. I never said he'd get a 4 year deal. Just like the best option for the team is an 8 year deal, but we can all agree that's probably not going to happen either. But he's going to try to get there at the table and use that to his advantage. It's just smart business from his end to do that.
When the contract ends makes no difference to either the team or Marner. The cap hits will be what they are then, one way or another. If anything it lets them know their window.
I think 5 years is where this ends up at. Marner would like 4, I'm sure Toronto would like 8 but not want the contract cost of 8. So they are probably looking at 6 with a cost they are comfortable with. The middle is 5.