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Aug 5 at 3:19
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20. Elias Pettersson
19. Sean Monahan
18. Nicklas Backstrom
17. Logan Couture
16. Evgeny Kuznetsov
15. Jack Eichel
14. Sebastian Aho
13. Evgeni Malkin
12. Ryan O'Reilly
11. Tyler Seguin
10. Brayden Point
9. Mark Scheifele
8. Steven Stamkos
7. Patrice Bergeron
6. Auston Matthews
5. John Tavares
4. Aleksander Barkov
3. Nathan MacKinnon
2. Sidney Crosby
1. Connor McDavid
Aug 5 at 9:27
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stamkos is way too high on this list, malkin is too low. Ide also rather have any of: couture, kuznetsov, and eichel over seguin.
Aug 5 at 9:47
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Quoting: hanson493
stamkos is way too high on this list, malkin is too low. Ide also rather have any of: couture, kuznetsov, and eichel over seguin.


So you say Stamkos is too high but Tavares isn't?
Aug 5 at 9:58
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Quoting: matulix
So you say Stamkos is too high but Tavares isn't?


Tavares still plays center for every shift. I feel like Stamkos barely even plays center anymore. Every time i watched him last year he was a winger.
Aug 5 at 9:59
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Quoting: hanson493
Tavares still plays center for every shift. I feel like Stamkos barely even plays center anymore. Every time i watched him last year he was a winger.


What are u talking about?
Aug 5 at 10:01
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Quoting: matulix
What are u talking about?


Everytime ide see stamkos on the ice he would be a winger, idk if that was just for powerplays and point centered? but Literally every time i saw stamkos play he was never playing center.
Aug 5 at 10:10
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Quoting: hanson493
Everytime ide see stamkos on the ice he would be a winger, idk if that was just for powerplays and point centered? but Literally every time i saw stamkos play he was never playing center.


He plays wing just on PPs.
Aug 5 at 10:31
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"Barkov is such an underrated player."

If you think he's underrated, you think he's a top 5 player. Basically everyone says he's a top 6-7 centre in the NHL. He made it to #9 on my list of my top 10 players and everyone knows he's that good. So, why do so many people say he's underrated?
Aug 5 at 10:32
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Quoting: matulix
He plays wing just on PPs.


Looking at pure volume stats, no corsi, no extreme analytics. tavares took roughly 500 more faceoffs and majority of his production came at 5v5 where as Stamkos took sub 1k faceoffs last year, and roughly half (its more like 60/40) of his production came on PP. Not to mention Stamkos playing with the 2nd best player in the NHL in kucherov. and another rotating player whether thats point, palat, or johnson. One of the best lines in all of hockey. Let me rephrase it. Without kucherov do you still think Stamkos is as dominant as he was last year again. Without marner do you think Tavares has as good of a year as he did last year again. I just think tavares is a true center, stamkos is better suited as a winger.
Aug 5 at 10:33
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
"Barkov is such an underrated player."

If you think he's underrated, you think he's a top 5 player. Basically everyone says he's a top 6-7 centre in the NHL. He made it to #9 on my list of my top 10 players and everyone knows he's that good. So, why do so many people say he's underrated?


I would say he is no longer underrated. Mission accomplished.
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Aug 5 at 10:37
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Quoting: hanson493
Looking at pure volume stats, no corsi, no extreme analytics. tavares took roughly 500 more faceoffs and majority of his production came at 5v5 where as Stamkos took sub 1k faceoffs last year, and roughly half (its more like 60/40) of his production came on PP. Not to mention Stamkos playing with the 2nd best player in the NHL in kucherov. and another rotating player whether thats point, palat, or johnson. One of the best lines in all of hockey. Let me rephrase it. Without kucherov do you still think Stamkos is as dominant as he was last year again. Without marner do you think Tavares has as good of a year as he did last year again. I just think tavares is a true center, stamkos is better suited as a winger.


Stamkos doesn't play with Kuch on the same line anymore.
Aug 5 at 10:37
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where is jay beagle??????????
Aug 5 at 10:40
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Quoting: matulix
I would say he is no longer underrated. Mission accomplished.


Finally, someone who knows what underrated means. If someone wants to say he's underrated, they can, but when saying that they should mean they think he's at Crosby/MacKinnon level or whatever.
Aug 5 at 1:50
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
"Barkov is such an underrated player."

If you think he's underrated, you think he's a top 5 player. Basically everyone says he's a top 6-7 centre in the NHL. He made it to #9 on my list of my top 10 players and everyone knows he's that good. So, why do so many people say he's underrated?


He's not underrated anymore
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Aug 5 at 3:47
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Quoting: SpaghettiPasta
He's not underrated anymore


Was he ever underrated?
Aug 5 at 4:01
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Was he ever underrated?


Yeah, but now huberdough is underrated
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Aug 5 at 4:02
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the fact coots didnt make this list though is the real problem with it IMO.
Aug 5 at 4:16
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Quoting: SpaghettiPasta
Yeah, but now huberdough is underrated


When was Barkov underrated?
Aug 5 at 5:08
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Quoting: matulix
20. Elias Pettersson
19. Sean Monahan
18. Nicklas Backstrom
17. Logan Couture
16. Evgeny Kuznetsov
15. Jack Eichel
14. Sebastian Aho
13. Evgeni Malkin
12. Ryan O'Reilly
11. Tyler Seguin
10. Brayden Point
9. Mark Scheifele
8. Steven Stamkos
7. Patrice Bergeron
6. Auston Matthews
5. John Tavares
4. Aleksander Barkov
3. Nathan MacKinnon
2. Sidney Crosby
1. Connor McDavid


Pick one: 26 and Under Team or 27 and Older Team?

<26yo: McDavid, MacKinnon, Barkov, Matthews, Scheifele, Point, Aho, Eichel, Monahan, Pettersson
>27yo: Crosby, Tavares, Bergeron, Stamkos, Seguin, O'Reilly, Malkin, Kuznetsov, Couture, Backstrom
Aug 5 at 5:17
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
When was Barkov underrated?


A few seasons ago when he missed a lot of time due to injury, both 2015-16 and 2016-17.

2017-18 was the first dominant season he had where he didn't miss a lot of time to injury, so people began to take notice of him.
Aug 5 at 6:09
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aren't these lists fan voted as well?
Aug 6 at 2:44
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Quoting: DoctorBreakfast
A few seasons ago when he missed a lot of time due to injury, both 2015-16 and 2016-17.

2017-18 was the first dominant season he had where he didn't miss a lot of time to injury, so people began to take notice of him.


I wouldn't say he was as good then as he is now though ... maybe. It really depends who you ask when talking about overrated and underrated players.
Aug 6 at 9:06
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
"Barkov is such an underrated player."

If you think he's underrated, you think he's a top 5 player. Basically everyone says he's a top 6-7 centre in the NHL. He made it to #9 on my list of my top 10 players and everyone knows he's that good. So, why do so many people say he's underrated?


Barkov's problem is that he plays for Florida. He doesnt get talked about nearly as much as other elite centres because that would mean people have to talk about Florida. Playing for a lower market team you have to be way better to get noticed than if you play for a big market team.
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Aug 6 at 9:59
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
I wouldn't say he was as good then as he is now though ... maybe. It really depends who you ask when talking about overrated and underrated players.


Of course you wouldn't say that. That's what made him underrated.
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Aug 6 at 10:36
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Quoting: Rangsey
Barkov's problem is that he plays for Florida. He doesnt get talked about nearly as much as other elite centres because that would mean people have to talk about Florida. Playing for a lower market team you have to be way better to get noticed than if you play for a big market team.


He does get talked about as one of the best centres in the league.
 
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