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Tampa Bay Lightning signed Kevin Shattenkirk (1 Year / $1,750,000 AAV)

Was this a good signing?
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Aug 5, 2019 at 4:37
#76
Miss the Thrashers
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They moved Callahan and felt the need for more former rangers?
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Aug 5, 2019 at 4:55
#77
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I believe this signing wasn't able improving Tbay, it's more likely a signing to stop him improving a Conference rival.
Aug 5, 2019 at 4:57
#78
Retired V2 V3 GM
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Still a great player!
Aug 5, 2019 at 4:57
#79
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It's insane how big of a steal this is.
Aug 5, 2019 at 5:06
#80
Nazaleaf
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Quoting: AwesomeMatthews
WTF


Could you imagine Leafs bringing Gardiner back on a similar looking 1 year deal?! That's my dream scenario. But Shatty is a RHD and a damn good one too. Also, why in the world would Jake take a huge pay cut and lose term during an important offseason for him? Now is his time to cash in. Guess Shatty already cashed in NY so he's willing to do this.
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Aug 5, 2019 at 5:10
#81
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Quoting: WellIDK
What flexibility for 2020? At least not anything cap related


Sergachev's not going nowhere.
Aug 5, 2019 at 5:18
#82
Discord COL's GM
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Quoting: Rangsey
Which two?


Domingue and Condon
Aug 5, 2019 at 5:40
#83
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What a loser.

"Im **** now, so I might as well join a team that really doesn't need me, and I could be really successful being ****. " Shattenkirk's dignity
Aug 5, 2019 at 6:11
#84
best poster
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Quoting: mr_z
What a loser.

"Im **** now, so I might as well join a team that really doesn't need me, and I could be really successful being ****. " Shattenkirk's dignity


love to be bought out by the team you took a pay cut for
Aug 5, 2019 at 6:17
#85
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Quoting: kaljakori
This guy is literally 2 seasons removed from being a legit top-pairing guy and a good one, rest of the league passes and he falls to... Tampa. Because of course he does.


when was Shattenkirk ever a "legit top-pairing guy?"
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Aug 5, 2019 at 6:37
#86
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Domingue and Condon

My bad.
Thought you were talking Dmen. :-)
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Aug 5, 2019 at 7:40
#87
BOLT LOVER
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Quoting: mondo
drinking at 2 pm on a monday isn't something to brag about


It is if you beachfront watching bikinis and the occasionally wave and really sometimes forget what day of week it is ..
Aug 5, 2019 at 7:46
#88
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Quoting: kaljakori
This guy is literally 2 seasons removed from being a legit top-pairing guy and a good one, rest of the league passes and he falls to... Tampa. Because of course he does.


Lucic is literally 2 seasons removed from being a legit 25 goal / 50 point power-forward.
Marleau is literally 2 seasons removed from being a legit 25 goal / 50 point snipe show.
Seabrook is literally 2 seasons removed from being a legit top-pairing defensemen.

I have some more fun facts if you'd like?
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Aug 5, 2019 at 7:50
#89
BOLT LOVER
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Stop overusing the world literally .. sound like my wise ass 8th grader.. literally ..
Aug 5, 2019 at 8:03
#90
best poster
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Quoting: BOLTLOVER1
It is if you beachfront watching bikinis and the occasionally wave and really sometimes forget what day of week it is ..


yet you're still mad online
Aug 5, 2019 at 8:04
#91
BOLT LOVER
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I'm a lover not a fighter ..
Aug 5, 2019 at 9:00
#92
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Quoting: drewjenks
Lucic is literally 2 seasons removed from being a legit 25 goal / 50 point power-forward.
Marleau is literally 2 seasons removed from being a legit 25 goal / 50 point snipe show.
Seabrook is literally 2 seasons removed from being a legit top-pairing defensemen.

I have some more fun facts if you'd like?


None of those guys are signed to 1x1,75.

Learn the difference,
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Aug 5, 2019 at 9:32
#93
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Quoting: kaljakori
None of those guys are signed to 1x1,75.

Learn the difference,


Yeah I was responding to your comments about his talent / potential .... LMAO.
Aug 5, 2019 at 10:17
#94
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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Kinda fantasy that he was a top pairing guy two years ago. Blues traded him. near the TDL in 2017 because he was their 3rd best RHD. Yeah he was good on PP...but that was all.
Aug 6, 2019 at 1:12
#95
93in93
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Quoting: kaljakori
This guy is literally 2 seasons removed from being a legit top-pairing guy and a good one, rest of the league passes and he falls to... Tampa. Because of course he does.


Rest of the league didn't pass, Shattenkirk said there were 6 or 7 teams who contacted him and he chose Tampa
Aug 6, 2019 at 1:16
#96
93in93
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
they have no space for it.


They've got $9.4M with 21 signed, wont be hard to get compatible
Aug 6, 2019 at 8:04
#97
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Shattenkirk is a good bet at this price, and Tampa needed a RHD, as they are quite weak on the right side, but this does make their current cap situation quite tight, but they have deals they can juggle around, guys that are waivers expempt and a few contracts that aren't that huge that they can likely trade someone like paquette easily enough.

Next year is going to be tough though. They will have at least $78M committed to 15 players, with Sergechev, Cirelli, and Cernak left to sign, as well as a roster to fill. Only Killorn's contract can be traded without his permission, and between the restriction of only being able to trade him to about half of the league, and his contract being one of the worst they have on the books that won't be easy. They likely can get it done, but it will probably cost an asset. The problem is, that even after moving contract, things don't get very easy. They will have likely at least $73.5M committed to 14 guys, with 3 RFAs. If the cap is say $84M next year, that's less than $11M to sign 3 RFAs, and fill out a roster, they won't have much else they can move because of all of their full NTCs.

Tampa has done a good job of navigating fair contracts for their stars (although I really don't like Vasilevsky's contract), but they have handed out NTCs like candy to second tier guys, and that could prove a problem.
Aug 6, 2019 at 8:59
#98
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+5.6% Corsi Rel last season on a terrible team. He had an insanely low shooting percentage at 1.4%. This guy is not much worse than he was two seasons ago.
Aug 6, 2019 at 9:25
#99
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Quoting: kaljakori
This guy is literally 2 seasons removed from being a legit top-pairing guy and a good one, rest of the league passes and he falls to... Tampa. Because of course he does.


Four years ago he was a 2nd pairing guy, since then he has played 3rd pairing. He was always sheltered behind Pietrangelo in St. Louis.
Aug 6, 2019 at 9:25
#100
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Quoting: pharrow
when was Shattenkirk ever a "legit top-pairing guy?"


Never?
 
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