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Trading Schenn

Created by: jwg314
Team: 2019-20 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 5, 2019
Published: Aug. 5, 2019
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Description
Obviously some of these teams don't even have a need for Schenn, just looking at options.
If trade doesn't work for other team's cap, then assume cap is moved in another deal.

Blues are looking for:
- young LD prospect
- top-6 winger
- 1st round pick

Which trades are realistic?
Trades
1.
STL
  1. Smith, Reilly
Additional Details:
VGK gets (arguably) an upgrade for this year and is relieved of Smith's contract in the coming seasons
VGK
    Schenn, Brayden
    2.
    STL
    1. Capobianco, Kyle
    2. 2020 2nd round pick (ARI)
    ARI
      Schenn, Brayden
      3.
      STL
      1. Mahura, Josh
      2. 2020 2nd round pick (ANA)
      ANA
        Schenn, Brayden
        4.
        STL
        1. Johnson, Ryan [Reserve List]
        2. 2020 2nd round pick (BUF)
        BUF
          Schenn, Brayden
          2020 5th round pick (STL)
          5.
          STL
          1. Vaakanainen, Urho
          2. 2020 3rd round pick (BOS)
          BOS
            Schenn, Brayden
            2020 5th round pick (STL)
            6.
            7.
            CAR
              Schenn, Brayden
              Conditional 2020 3rd round pick (2020) if Schenn doesn't re-sign
              8.
              STL
              1. Krys, Chad
              2. 2020 1st round pick (CHI)
              CHI
                Schenn, Brayden
                9.
                STL
                1. Kamenev, Vladislav
                2. 2020 1st round pick (COL)
                COL
                  Schenn, Brayden
                  10.
                  CBJ
                    Schenn, Brayden
                    Allen, Jake ($1.35M retained)
                    2020 3rd round pick (STL)
                    11.
                    DAL
                      Schenn, Brayden
                      Conditional 2020 2nd round pick (STL) if Schenn doesn't re-sign
                      12.
                      DET
                        Schenn, Brayden
                        Conditional 2020 3rd round pick (STL) if Schenn doesn't re-sign
                        13.
                        EDM
                          Schenn, Brayden
                          Conditional 2020 3rd round pick (STL) if Schenn doesn't re-sign
                          14.
                          STL
                          1. Nässén, Linus [Reserve List]
                          2. 2020 1st round pick (FLA)
                          FLA
                            Schenn, Brayden
                            15.
                            STL
                            1. Clague, Kale
                            2. 2020 3rd round pick (LAK)
                            LAK
                              Schenn, Brayden
                              16.
                              MIN
                                Schenn, Brayden
                                Poganski, Austin
                                2020 3rd round pick (STL) becomes 2021 2nd round pick (STL) if Schenn doesn't re-sign
                                17.
                                MTL
                                  Schenn, Brayden
                                  Edmundson, Joel
                                  18.
                                  STL
                                  1. Del Gaizo, Marc [Reserve List]
                                  2. 2020 1st round pick (NSH)
                                  NSH
                                    Schenn, Brayden
                                    19.
                                    STL
                                    1. McLeod, Michael
                                    2. 2020 1st round pick (NJD)
                                    3. 2021 3rd round pick (NJD)
                                    NJD
                                      Schenn, Brayden
                                      Edmundson, Joel
                                      20.
                                      STL
                                      1. Vande Sompel, Mitch
                                      2. 2020 1st round pick (NYI)
                                      NYI
                                        Schenn, Brayden
                                        21.
                                        STL
                                        1. Hájek, Libor
                                        2. 2020 5th round pick (NYR)
                                        NYR
                                          Schenn, Brayden
                                          22.
                                          STL
                                          1. Ryan, Bobby ($3,250,000 retained)
                                          2. 2020 6th round pick (STL)
                                          OTT
                                            Schenn, Brayden is flipped again at the deadline for picks/prospects
                                            23.
                                            STL
                                            1. Ginning, Adam [Reserve List]
                                            2. 2020 1st round pick (PHI)
                                            PHI
                                              Schenn, Brayden
                                              24.
                                              PIT
                                                Schenn, Brayden
                                                Conditional 2021 3rd round pick (STL) if Schenn doesn't re-sign
                                                25.
                                                STL
                                                1. Ferraro, Mario
                                                2. 2020 2nd round pick (SJS)
                                                SJS
                                                  Schenn, Brayden
                                                  26.
                                                  STL
                                                  1. Erne, Adam [RFA Rights]
                                                  2. 2020 1st round pick (TBL)
                                                  TBL
                                                    Schenn, Brayden
                                                    27.
                                                    TOR
                                                      Schenn, Brayden ($1.925M retained)
                                                      Conditional 3rd round pick (STL) if Schenn does not re-sign
                                                      28.
                                                      STL
                                                      1. Rathbone, Jack [Reserve List]
                                                      2. 2020 2nd round pick (VAN)
                                                      3. 2021 4th round pick (VAN)
                                                      VAN
                                                        Schenn, Brayden
                                                        29.
                                                        STL
                                                        1. Djoos, Christian
                                                        2. 2020 3rd round pick (WSH)
                                                        WSH
                                                          Schenn, Brayden
                                                          30.
                                                          STL
                                                          1. Stanley, Logan
                                                          2. 2020 1st round pick (WPG)
                                                          WPG
                                                            Schenn, Brayden
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                                                            ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
                                                            27$81,500,000$92,612,091$12,928$2,827,500-$11,112,091
                                                            Left WingCentreRight Wing
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                                                            $4,300,000$4,300,000
                                                            LW, RW
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                                                            UFA - 1
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                                                            $750,000$750,000
                                                            C
                                                            RFA - 1
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                                                            $5,000,000$5,000,000
                                                            LW, RW
                                                            M-NTC
                                                            UFA - 3
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                                                            $5,500,000$5,500,000
                                                            LW, RW
                                                            M-NTC
                                                            UFA - 4
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                                                            $3,750,000$3,750,000
                                                            C, LW
                                                            UFA - 3
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                                                            $4,000,000$4,000,000
                                                            RW, LW
                                                            M-NTC, NMC
                                                            UFA - 3
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                                                            $4,800,000$4,800,000
                                                            LW, RW
                                                            UFA - 2
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                                                            $811,667$811,667
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                                                            $3,200,000$3,200,000
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                                                            UFA - 3
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                                                            RFA - 2
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                                                            $1,150,000$1,150,000
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                                                            UFA - 1
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                                                            $745,000$745,000 (Performance Bonus$107,500$108K)
                                                            LD
                                                            UFA - 1
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                                                            $745,000$745,000 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
                                                            LD/RD
                                                            RFA - 2
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                                                            $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
                                                            LD/RD
                                                            RFA - 3
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                                                            $730,833$730,833 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
                                                            LD/RD
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                                                            $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
                                                            LD/RD
                                                            RFA - 2
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                                                            $853,333$853,333 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
                                                            LD
                                                            UFA - 3
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                                                            $894,166$894,166
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                                                            UFA - 1
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                                                            $778,333$778,333
                                                            LD
                                                            RFA - 4
                                                            Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
                                                            $720,000$720,000 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
                                                            LD/RD
                                                            UFA - 1
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                                                            $761,666$761,666 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
                                                            LD/RD
                                                            RFA - 2
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                                                            $728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
                                                            LD
                                                            UFA - 1
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                                                            $833,333$833,333
                                                            LD
                                                            UFA - 2
                                                            Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
                                                            $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
                                                            LD
                                                            RFA - 3
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                                                            $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
                                                            LD
                                                            UFA - 3
                                                            Logo of the Washington Capitals
                                                            $1,250,000$1,250,000
                                                            LD
                                                            UFA - 1
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                                                            $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
                                                            LD
                                                            RFA - 2

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                                                            Aug. 5, 2019 at 5:15 p.m.
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                                                            Some pretty good and realistic ones in there.
                                                            Aug. 5, 2019 at 5:16 p.m.
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                                                            Imo leafs say no without a extension that’s very team friendly. And Detroit fleeced you
                                                            Aug. 5, 2019 at 5:18 p.m.
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                                                            Tampa would do that in a heartbeat but can't afford it
                                                            Aug. 5, 2019 at 5:22 p.m.
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                                                            Some good thoughts in here. Imo if we’re trading him we should either go for a young 3rd-liner who can fill-in as a 2c (Someone like Jenner, Bennett, McCann) + prospects or we trade for a top LHD prospect who’s exempt from expansion (someone like POJ, Vaakanainen, Heinola, etc)
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                                                            Aug. 5, 2019 at 5:23 p.m.
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                                                            Quoting: STLBlues17
                                                            Some good thoughts in here. Imo if we’re trading him we should either go for a young 3rd-liner who can fill-in as a 2c (Someone like Jenner, Bennett, McCann) + prospects or we trade for a top LHD prospect who’s exempt from expansion (someone like POJ, Vaakanainen, Heinola, etc)


                                                            Agreed, I had expansion in mind when picking the LD prospects.
                                                            Aug. 5, 2019 at 5:24 p.m.
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                                                            Quoting: jwg314
                                                            Agreed, I had expansion in mind when picking the LD prospects.


                                                            I suppose we could also trade him for a similar caliber player who plays wing like Kreider or Zucker and then extend them.

                                                            Edit: I also feel like you’re kind of underselling him. I think if we’re gonna make our team worse after a cup, we better get a great package back and probably could.
                                                            Aug. 5, 2019 at 5:26 p.m.
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                                                            I'm probably in the minority but I would do that for Buffalo
                                                            Aug. 5, 2019 at 5:31 p.m.
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                                                            We do not need a 1st round pick. What we would need is an upgrade to the top 6 or an expansion expempt LD stud, perhaps dealing Schenn in a package with Eddy.
                                                            Aug. 5, 2019 at 5:34 p.m.
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                                                            Quoting: mokumboi
                                                            We do not need a 1st round pick. What we would need is an upgrade to the top 6 or an expansion expempt LD stud, perhaps dealing Schenn in a package with Eddy.


                                                            Right, the 1st round pick is if the other team doesn't have any good options at either. It's supposed to be a pretty good draft this year, so no complaint if we get a 1st in dealing Schenn.

                                                            I packaged Schenn with Eddy for Tatar, which i think makes sense for both teams assuming Montreal wants to try to make a push this year.
                                                            Aug. 5, 2019 at 6:02 p.m.
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                                                            Quoting: jwg314
                                                            Right, the 1st round pick is if the other team doesn't have any good options at either. It's supposed to be a pretty good draft this year, so no complaint if we get a 1st in dealing Schenn.

                                                            I packaged Schenn with Eddy for Tatar, which i think makes sense for both teams assuming Montreal wants to try to make a push this year.



                                                            Yes, the draft is strong and normally that would be a great pull. But we're after another Cup and Schenn is a legit top 6 player we'd need to replace.

                                                            I'm not down with this Tatar trade idea. He's only signed one year longer than Schenn and is nearly the same age, so it's not really an upgrade worth the package. Plus, and this is important, both Schenn and Eddy are big, tough players. Tatar is small without much bite at all. This is a big deal for the Blues style, so MTL would need to give a considerable amount more to swing that trade.
                                                            Aug. 5, 2019 at 6:49 p.m.
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                                                            Some really good ideas here (Anaheim, Arizona) but then what happened when you got to Ottawa?
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                                                            Aug. 5, 2019 at 8:54 p.m.
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                                                            Sharks say no. You can have a pick not our great defensive defenseman
                                                            Aug. 5, 2019 at 9:09 p.m.
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                                                            Djoos and a 3rd for Brayden Schenn? Caps almost definitely accept at the deadline, once a little injury cap space opens up on their end, and big retention doesn't seem like such a big ask, on your end. I think replacing Bouwmeester long term makes sense. The blues have plenty of good forwards, and re-signing Schenn could be pretty expensive.
                                                            Aug. 5, 2019 at 9:54 p.m.
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                                                            With NYI you might be able to do Wilde 1 for 1 with a resign condition.
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                                                            Aug. 6, 2019 at 1:09 a.m.
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                                                            Quoting: OldNYIfan
                                                            Some really good ideas here (Anaheim, Arizona) but then what happened when you got to Ottawa?


                                                            Haha honestly I couldn’t think of a single other deal that would make sense for them. They’re in full rebuild and in no need of a one year rental. They would want to unload Ryan though. I don’t think Ryan would be that bad as a middle-six winger at half the price. Maybe we could do better than just a 6th.

                                                            Ottawa is just the least likely trade partner out of everyone.
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                                                            Aug. 6, 2019 at 11:53 p.m.
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                                                            Lots of good stuff here. Nice work.
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                                                            Aug. 7, 2019 at 12:08 a.m.
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                                                            You will get most value out of the team thats looking for a 1/2 C since they are the ones that have the highest chance of resigning and will then pay more
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