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Marners camp has lost its mind

Created by: TH13
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 6, 2019
Published: Aug. 6, 2019
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Asking for a bridge deal at 3 x 10 million according to reports.
https://www.rotoworld.com/hockey/nhl/player/26416/mitch-marner

Give your head a shake.
Sit out a season bud ,enjoy the couch.
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Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:09 p.m.
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Yes please ! MTL will get the 3rd spot in the Atlantic
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:16 p.m.
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Can a team just offer sheet him already (and he accepts)?!?! lol

I'm dying to see the gain/loss on a four 1st offer sheet over the period. I still think depending on the player being received and the team's organizational standing at that time, that it makes sense to do it.
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Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:20 p.m.
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Can a team just offer sheet him already (and he accepts)?!?! lol

I'm dying to see the gain/loss on a four 1st offer sheet over the period. I still think depending on the player being received and the team's organizational standing at that time, that it makes sense to do it.


As a guy who loves Marner's game both skill and the effort he puts out, at 3 x10m or 3 x 11m as has also been reported. leafs would be better off with 4 firsts and the cap room.
Which is also why I think no one will offer sheet him because they would be helping the Leafs out.
Leafs with 10mil in cap space a 4 firsts to trade to plug some holes.... I don't think any team right now in the league wants that to happen.
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Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:20 p.m.
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so give it to him, he’s earned it !
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Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:26 p.m.
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Quoting: GMs
Yes please ! MTL will get the 3rd spot in the Atlantic


Toronto is still better
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:28 p.m.
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Toronto fans hate paying their players but overvalue them in every trade on this site. "Nylander for Pesce? No way! CAR would have to add!"
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Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:28 p.m.
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Wow... Hang yourself? That's over the line. No need for talk like that on here just because you don't agree with someone's opinion. And Mitch is an adult responsible for every decision he makes or people who he allows to represent him. If Mitch robs a store does his dad go to jail because as you say he's “forced" to do what his dad says? Ps leaf fans don't hate Mitch we're all just tired of these shenanigans/ ridiculous demands his camp is putting out in the media as a negotiation tactic.


That sums it up nicely.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:30 p.m.
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He will make 3x 9.5 million. I will bet anyone this is what he will get. I still don’t get why leafs fans are thinking he will take less because of some home town discount . Pay up Toronto. He will be gone in 4 years and be one of the highest paid players in the nhl.
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Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:35 p.m.
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He will make 3x 9.5 million. I will bet anyone this is what he will get. I still don’t get why leafs fans are thinking he will take less because of some home town discount . Pay up Toronto. He will be gone in 4 years and be one of the highest paid players in the nhl.


They’re Hating on a hard working kid because he’s trying to maximize his earning potential
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Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:36 p.m.
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You are an idiot if you actually think this is Mitch’s fault. It’s all his dad, he’s forced to do what Paul says. So far, Mitch Marner has not done or said anything to earn the hate of Leafs fans. He works hard and shows up every single game. You’re the one who needs to sit on the couch and hang yourself.


There is no proof this is Paul's doing
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:36 p.m.
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Quoting: NickC1988
Toronto fans hate paying their players but overvalue them in every trade on this site. "Nylander for Pesce? No way! CAR would have to add!"


We don't hate paying our players, unfortunately, with a cap, there's only so much to go around. As for overvaluing our players...every fan base has people like that not just Toronto.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
so give it to him, he’s earned it !


this is why your not a gm
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Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:37 p.m.
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this is why your not a gm


Thank you, maple leafs believer
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
They’re Hating on a hard working kid because he’s trying to maximize his earning potential


Leafs fans are dumb as a stump. They are fin with an American making 11.5 million but a local boy who plays both ends of the ice and leads the team in points is worth less
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
They’re Hating on a hard working kid because he’s trying to maximize his earning potential


you clearly didnt see what the leafs offered, 3 years at 8.75 (overpayment), 6 year at 10 (overpayment) and 7 years at 10.75. This is getting stupid.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:39 p.m.
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You hate to see it
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Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:40 p.m.
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you clearly didnt see what the leafs offered, 3 years at 8.75 (overpayment), 6 year at 10 (overpayment) and 7 years at 10.75. This is getting stupid.


Marner should get somewhere in between what Tavares and Matthews are making
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Isles777
They’re Hating on a hard working kid because he’s trying to maximize his earning potential


I don't see many people hating his motives. I understand he wants to make as much as he can, but he also at a point has to realize the leafs had to trade 3 regulars to make room for him already, and are still short of his desired AAV. Everyone knows Marner will sign eventually. I think its pretty much clear a 4, 5, and 8 year deal is off the table. 1,2,7 are very unlikely. At 3 Marner will be making close to 9m, and 6 he will be making close to 10m. Still unprecedented value for an RFA winger, and thats what I think is bothering most people. the leafs are saying they will give him a higher cap hit than any RFA winger ever, and he's saying its a non-starter.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:41 p.m.
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you clearly didnt see what the leafs offered, 3 years at 8.75 (overpayment), 6 year at 10 (overpayment) and 7 years at 10.75. This is getting stupid.


Leaking offers to the press to make your star player look bad.

Embarrassing
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:41 p.m.
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He will make 3x 9.5 million. I will bet anyone this is what he will get. I still don’t get why leafs fans are thinking he will take less because of some home town discount . Pay up Toronto. He will be gone in 4 years and be one of the highest paid players in the nhl.


Actually, we don't care what he gets as we trust our front office. I have literally not heard one Leafs fan say that he will take a “hometown discount", and I can assure you that he will not be gone in 4 years as the leafs would trade him after 3 if Dubas and company feel they can't re-sign him.
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Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:42 p.m.
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you clearly didnt see what the leafs offered, 3 years at 8.75 (overpayment), 6 year at 10 (overpayment) and 7 years at 10.75. This is getting stupid.


Overpayment lol. Like Mathews making 11.5 million. 3X9.5 million. Deal with it leafs fans and thanks to dubas he will be gone in 4 years
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Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:43 p.m.
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Wow... Hang yourself? That's over the line. No need for talk like that on here just because you don't agree with someone's opinion. And Mitch is an adult responsible for every decision he makes or people who he allows to represent him. If Mitch robs a store does his dad go to jail because as you say he's “forced" to do what his dad says? Ps leaf fans don't hate Mitch we're all just tired of these shenanigans/ ridiculous demands his camp is putting out in the media as a negotiation tactic.


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Check the title again "Marner's Camp"
I agree that this isn't Marner's fault. But at some point it becomes his responsibility.


Mitch’s job is to be a hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs and as far as I’m concerned, he’s done well. It’s not his fault he was born to Paul, one of those crazy and overly involved parents.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:43 p.m.
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Leafs fans are dumb as a stump. They are fin with an American making 11.5 million but a local boy who plays both ends of the ice and leads the team in points is worth less


r u dumb? Matthews is 15645234 percent better than Marner. Matthews is a goal scoring center who even with a bad history of health leads in 5v5 goals, Marner is amazing but is not known for goal scoring, hes known for setting up players (hes also a wing which is worth less). give your head a shake bud, and since when does where your born affect negotiations??? You know nothing about what the marner camp has offered and turned down and if you do, tell me.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Vortex
There is no proof this is Paul's doing


After hearing everything Paul has spoke with the media about how his son deserves 12 million and should be named captain, there is more than enough evidence. Is there any proof that Mitch has been the one demanding this? He hasn’t said a word about it.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:45 p.m.
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They’re Hating on a hard working kid because he’s trying to maximize his earning potential


Leaf fans aren't hating on him for trying to maximize his earning potential... We don't hate him at all and fully understand what he's trying to do. Would you be saying the same thing if Barzal was asking for $11+? Somehow I highly doubt it.
 
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