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Marners camp has lost its mind

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Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 6, 2019
Published: Aug. 6, 2019
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Asking for a bridge deal at 3 x 10 million according to reports.
https://www.rotoworld.com/hockey/nhl/player/26416/mitch-marner

Give your head a shake.
Sit out a season bud ,enjoy the couch.
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Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Johnjohn
Overpayment lol. Like Mathews making 11.5 million. 3X9.5 million. Deal with it leafs fans and thanks to dubas he will be gone in 4 years


Dubas couldn’t negotiate and buy even one of Matthews UFA years - guy has great vision but not a guy you want signing big name players
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:45 p.m.
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He will make 3x 9.5 million. I will bet anyone this is what he will get. I still don’t get why leafs fans are thinking he will take less because of some home town discount . Pay up Toronto. He will be gone in 4 years and be one of the highest paid players in the nhl.


Not really thinking he would take a home town discount. But when you look at the top wingers in the league what are they getting paid?
Panarin 11.6m
Stone 9.5
Kucherov 9.5
and Kane 10.5 After the 3 cups


All on long term deals. Yes there are small differences with each contract but when you break it down.
Id be totally happy with a 5 year deal at 9.5-10 mil for Marner. Let him go to free agency afterwards if he wants, thats his right.
Do you really think if he signs a 3 year deal at 9.5 million he will be getting 13-15 million a year after that?
Kids a great player that shows up every day and works his ass off.
But stop all this talk about Leafs and their fans not wanting to pay their players. Reports are they have offered hi 10-11mil a
year on a 7-8 year deal. They payed Nylander above market value and handed Matthews a blank cheque basically. It was Marner's camp's choice to go last.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:46 p.m.
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Actually, we don't care what he gets as we trust our front office. I have literally not heard one Leafs fan say that he will take a “hometown discount", and I can assure you that he will not be gone in 4 years as the leafs would trade him after 3 if Dubas and company feel they can't re-sign him.


Trade him for 1 year of contact lol. You might get a first but that ain’t worth 1 year of his caliber. I guess you will never win a cup
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:46 p.m.
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This thread kind of encapsulates a large part of this forum. A few people who strongly dislike the leafs, saying Marner is worth as much as a #1 C, should get the most money any RFA winger has ever got, and it doesn't matter what they pay him because he will be gone in 4 years.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:46 p.m.
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Marner should get somewhere in between what Tavares and Matthews are making


R U JOKING?? Tavares and Matthews are both centers and quite frankly Matthews is better than Marner and Tavares is a top 10 center in the league in fact both are. Marner while very very very talented is nowhere near there. Marner deserves 9.5 at 8 years MAX. tell me why im wrong
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:46 p.m.
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Leaf fans aren't hating on him for trying to maximize his earning potential... We don't hate him at all and fully understand what he's trying to do. Would you be saying the same thing if Barzal was asking for $11+? Somehow I highly doubt it.


If barzal puts up 80 + pts this season he will absolutely be asking for 11 +
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:47 p.m.
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Trade him for 1 year of contact lol. You might get a first but that ain’t worth 1 year of his caliber. I guess you will never win a cup

Marner is worth 11.5+ but 1 year of his service isn't worth a first?? is Marner good or bad man make up your mind.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:47 p.m.
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Quoting: BrandonDubinskyGOAT
Mitch’s job is to be a hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs and as far as I’m concerned, he’s done well. It’s not his fault he was born to Paul, one of those crazy and overly involved parents.


Nonetheless, he's still an adult who needs to take control of his life and these decisions/negotiations or at least own up to his part in them if any at all.
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Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:47 p.m.
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Quoting: BrandonDubinskyGOAT
After hearing everything Paul has spoke with the media about how his son deserves 12 million and should be named captain, there is more than enough evidence. Is there any proof that Mitch has been the one demanding this? He hasn’t said a word about it, dumb*ss.


I more think this is Darren Ferris being like this and did Paul really say that?? lol totally didnt see that can you send me a link
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:48 p.m.
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Quoting: CameronLeafs
This thread kind of encapsulates a large part of this forum. A few people who strongly dislike the leafs, saying Marner is worth as much as a #1 C, should get the most money any RFA winger has ever got, and it doesn't matter what they pay him because he will be gone in 4 years.


couldnt of said it better honestly
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:49 p.m.
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Quoting: BrandonDubinskyGOAT
Mitch’s job is to be a hockey player for the Toronto Maple Leafs and as far as I’m concerned, he’s done well. It’s not his fault he was born to Paul, one of those crazy and overly involved parents.


A man trying to get the most for his son . Crazy he wants his kid to be paid what he is worth in today’s market lol...so dumb leafs fans
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:51 p.m.
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I more think this is Darren Ferris being like this and did Paul really say that?? lol totally didnt see that can you send me a link


He was on the Leafs radio show a few months ago:

https://deanblundell.com/sports/the-athletic-wrote-a-hit-piece-on-mitch-marners-dad-paul-marner-and-he-was-more-than-happy-to-help/
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R U JOKING?? Tavares and Matthews are both centers and quite frankly Matthews is better than Marner and Tavares is a top 10 center in the league in fact both are. Marner while very very very talented is nowhere near there. Marner deserves 9.5 at 8 years MAX. tell me why im wrong


Marner led your team in pts the last two seasons, is better defensively than both Tavares and Matthews ... he should get 11.2 over 6 or 7 years. Tavares has another 3-4 years of playing at an elite level. Marners contract you’re paying him through his entire prime.
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Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:51 p.m.
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We don't hate paying our players, unfortunately, with a cap, there's only so much to go around. As for overvaluing our players...every fan base has people like that not just Toronto.


"Unfortunately with a cap"

Don't blame the cap for poor salary management. There are teams that won cups in the past decade (Chicago, LA, Pittsburgh) with tight cap hits.

Toronto fans are by far the most consistent when it comes to over valuation of players.
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Overpayment lol. Like Mathews making 11.5 million. 3X9.5 million. Deal with it leafs fans and thanks to dubas he will be gone in 4 years


id like to say this comment and in 4 years be like remember that?
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Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:52 p.m.
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Nonetheless, he's still an adult who needs to take control of his life and these decisions/negotiations or at least own up to his part in them if any at all.


Well you cannot blame Mitch Marner for being unwilling to stand up. He doesn’t want to end up getting into a fight with his dad like Patrick O’Sullivan.
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:53 p.m.
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Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:53 p.m.
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A man trying to get the most for his son . Crazy he wants his kid to be paid what he is worth in today’s market lol...so dumb leafs fans


I'd gladly give Marner 10 million over more that 3 years
Show me a winger at 22 making over 10% of his teams cap hit........
Because thats today's market right ? oh ok cool good talk
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:53 p.m.
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Leafs fans are dumb as a stump. They are fin with an American making 11.5 million but a local boy who plays both ends of the ice and leads the team in points is worth less


I don't think it's us who are as dumb as a stump...but if you look in the mirror I'm confident you'll find your answer.
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A man trying to get the most for his son . Crazy he wants his kid to be paid what he is worth in today’s market lol...so dumb leafs fans


You make Chiarelli's logic look good
Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:54 p.m.
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r u dumb? Matthews is 15645234 percent better than Marner. Matthews is a goal scoring center who even with a bad history of health leads in 5v5 goals, Marner is amazing but is not known for goal scoring, hes known for setting up players (hes also a wing which is worth less). give your head a shake bud, and since when does where your born affect negotiations??? You know nothing about what the marner camp has offered and turned down and if you do, tell me.


He knows nothing about hockey lol he says the exact same thing all the time.
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You make Chiarelli's logic look good


He makes Chiarelli look like gm of the year lol
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Can’t wait til he sign for 3X 9.5 and proves these dummies don’t have a clue
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I'd gladly give Marner 10 million over more that 3 years
Show me a winger at 22 making over 10% of his teams cap hit........
Because thats today's market right ? oh ok cool good talk


Cameron said it best, literally most fan bases hate on this situation saying hes worth = or more to Matthews. I just wish leafs fans dont actually take it
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Aug. 6, 2019 at 9:56 p.m.
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I'd gladly give Marner 10 million over more that 3 years
Show me a winger at 22 making over 10% of his teams cap hit........
Because thats today's market right ? oh ok cool good talk


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