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Getting some Good players for cheap

Created by: CapFriendlysFinest
Initial Creation Date: Aug 7, 2019
Published: Aug 7, 2019 at 4:49 pm
Team: 2019-20 Detroit Red Wings
Trades
DET
  1. Leivo, Josh
  2. 2020 7th round pick (ANA)
VAN
  1. De La Rose, Jacob
  2. 2020 4th round pick (DET)
DET
  1. Turris, Kyle
NSH
  1. Nielsen, Frans ($1,750,000 retained)
DET
  1. Reimer, James
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (BUF)
  3. 2020 5th round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Howard, Jimmy
  2. 2020 7th round pick (DET)
Buyouts
  • Stephen Weiss: $1,666,667
  • Xavier Ouellet: $216,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Frans Nielsen: $1,750,000 (33.33%)
  • Mike Green: $2,687,500 (50%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
DET
DET
WSH
DET
SJS
BUF
DET
CAR
DET
ANA
2021
DET
DET
DET
VGK
DET
DET
DET
DET
2022
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$67,963,332$145,000$2,307,500$13,536,668
Left WingCenterRight Wing
DET
Bertuzzi, Tyler
$1,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
DET
Larkin, Dylan
$6,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
DET
Mantha, Anthony
$3,300,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
DET
Athanasiou, Andreas
$3,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
NSH
Turris, Kyle
$6,000,000
C
UFA - 5
DET
Zadina, Filip
$894,167
LW, RW
RFA - 3
DET
Svechnikov, Evgeny
$863,333
LW
RFA - 1
DET
Rasmussen, Michael
$894,166
LW, C, RW
RFA - 2
VAN
Leivo, Josh
$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
DET
Helm, Darren
$3,850,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
DET
Filppula, Valtteri
$3,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
DET
Glendening, Luke
$1,800,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
DET
DeKeyser, Danny
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
DET
Hronek, Filip
$714,166
RD
RFA - 2
DET
Bernier, Jonathan
$3,000,000
G
UFA - 2
DET
Cholowski, Dennis
$894,166
LD
RFA - 2
DET
Green, Mike
$2,687,500
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
CAR
Reimer, James
$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
DET
Nemeth, Patrik
$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
DET
Bowey, Madison
$1,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
DET
Ericsson, Jonathan
$4,250,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
DET
Zetterberg, Henrik
$6,083,333
C
UFA - 2
DET
Abdelkader, Justin
$4,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
DET
Franzen, Johan
$3,954,545
RW, LW
UFA - 1
DET
Hicketts, Joe
$700,000
LD
RFA - 2
DET
Daley, Trevor
$3,166,666
RD
NTC
UFA - 1

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Aug 7, 2019 at 4:50
#1
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howard is better than reimer, turris is coming off a bad year but i dont think they trade him that low. lievo trade is about right.
Aug 7, 2019 at 4:52
#2
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This is what they call "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic."
Aug 7, 2019 at 4:53
#3
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Quoting: hanson493
howard is better than reimer, turris is coming off a bad year but i dont think they trade him that low. lievo trade is about right.


DET should want nothing to do with Turris anyways. They need less long term risk not more.
Aug 7, 2019 at 4:54
#4
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Quoting: hanson493
howard is better than reimer, turris is coming off a bad year but i dont think they trade him that low. lievo trade is about right.


But the team is rebuilding thats why the Howard trade makes sense. I totally get the selling low part for Turris tho
Aug 7, 2019 at 4:54
#5
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Quoting: feds91stammer
DET should want nothing to do with Turris anyways. They need less long term risk not more.


fair enough! I just rather AA on the wing with a good center
Aug 7, 2019 at 4:56
#6
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Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest
fair enough! I just rather AA on the wing with a good center


If they got Turris it would be a misguided idea to rekindle the WC magic he had with Mantha.

If you want AA with a good C trade him for a package of picks and prospects.
Aug 7, 2019 at 5:11
#7
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 531
Likes: 149
I'm ok with Nielsen being AA's center this year, because he is more responsible defensively, allowing AA to just go. If you are going to get Turris, it has to be a long bad contract for long bad contract swap (Turris for Abdelkader maybe? With a differential in years based on age of the players involved). Nielsen's numbers weren't great, but there are worse contracts to trade on DET than Nielsen (Helm, Abdelkader come to mind). Nielsen and Fil are placeholders for Veleno and Ras (I think Ras goes to GR and plays C for the start of the year). It wouldn't shock me to see Veleno as your 3rd line C next year, and Ras as the 3rd line C the year after next.

I think Turris had a down year in Nashville, so he'd be a bounce-back candidate, And he's still 29, so he could have a few good years left in him (or it could be a continuing albatross).

Want no part of Reimer. Howard at the deadline last year would have returned a 3rd round pick for a short term rental (and SJS should have bought him). He's a decent starting goalie who didn't get a lot of help, and faced a ton of shots (how many backdoor goals did DET give up last year?). He's a good placeholder until the next option is ready.
Aug 7, 2019 at 5:22
#8
Joined: Dec 2017
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Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest
But the team is rebuilding thats why the Howard trade makes sense. I totally get the selling low part for Turris tho


But there is more going on there between the Wings and Howard. I don't see him being traded at the TDL last season he made it clear he doesn't want to leave his family that's is happy in Detroit. He could have retired at the end of the season and I think he was talked into playing at least a season or 2 with the 1 exception he wants to stay in Detroit. It was done because none of the Wings goalie prospects are ready yet. They signed Pickard for Grand Rapids since Sateri and Rybar both left.
Aug 7, 2019 at 7:53
#9
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Dude you're retaining on the wrong player, Why in the hell would Yzerman retain $1.75 million on Nielsen for 3 years while taking on Turris full $6 million per over 5 seasons? That's a joke Turris is the one the needs to be retained not Nielsen.
 
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