Can't really say he's "returning" as he never actually suited up in a game for the Sharks

Pretty high price for a guy who has no idea how to score

he's a middle 6 winger who can win faceoffs
CHI paid more then that for Shaw at a higher cap
Coyle's had 50 + points , Shaw hasnt outside that there game is very similar
his main purpose is as a secondary center to take 500-700 faceoffs a year and help the young Centers out .
his defensive reliability makes him a perfect rookie mentor with more upside to his two way game then Shaw had but the same heart .

seems to me this is about Market Value if you understand his role and what he brings

Shaw year 1 started with Danault on 4th LW and 40 games later he was #1 Center in Montreal replacing both Desharnais and Galchenyuk under 2 coaches .

Year 2 he played with Pacioretty primarily during the worst low point of his career until he got producing again at which point he joined Galchneyuk-Lehkonen on 3rd line and secured our last playoff run (Chucky scored 3 OT GWG in the last weeks before the playoff and Lehkonen had 11 points 6 goals and 3 GWG's in 12 games and 4 pts in 6 playoff games as one of only four-five habs to show up in the playoffs )

Year 3 Shaw slotted in beside Domi helping him hit a Career high in points at 72 and triple his goal output while also helping him shift to 2nd line Center full time .


these types of players are Crucial to development but you only ever notice them if you played Competitive Hockey. (non players never consider anything but points and maybe hits if they lead the league but outside that all other area's are ignored by mainstream fans who never had a hockey coach to teach them )

Ok well with all that in mind its a no from the sharks. Very disingenuous and comes off as a humble brag to imply that only a pro hockey player knows the value of a strong two way center. That just isnt what the sharks need. We need a scoring winger to help replace the goals we lost in Pavs and Nyquist. Our center depth is super deep and trading for another pure center makes no sense.

Not only we're not moving Coyle.

Second not for 2nd rounder (46-62) and Jacob Middleton, who will be a career AHLer lmao

Send Meier and then we'll talk.

He was on the Sharks reserve roster before being traded. Going to say you’re being a nit picky jerk.

He’s a center who plays wing down in the middle six. He’s a face off guy, who’s a play driver, who probably chips in about 45 points a season. He’s exactly what the Sharks need and what DeBoer loves. He’ll play on the wing with Jumbo and be able to take face offs in critical situations.

Troll Alert!!

You want to start the conversation by asking for a bonafide 1st line scoring winger in his prime, and likely NHL all star, for a third liner. Get out of town.

A second round pick and a solid D prospect who played on the third pair last year for the Sharks for 10 games, is likely a third pair LD, with the potential to grow to be a 2nd pair LD, is more than adequate for a team that needs to drop about $3M in salary to sign their RFAs.

No trust me, Middleton is nothing more than a depth D.

Coyle can play anywhere in the middle-six if not top9. C/RW and will likely put 45+ pts next season.

No thanks for your offer; continue dreaming like Leafs fans

" is more than adequate for a team that needs to drop about $3M in salary to sign their RFAs "

Ok and how de we replace him at 3C? lol

No trust me, I have only been watching his development in the Sharks org for the last three years on one of the best D corps, if not the best in the NHL. But yeah, I should totally trust a Bruins fan who I can pretty much guarantee doesn't follow the Sharks farm system...

Middle six and top 9 are the same thing, but he's absolutely best suited in a 3rd line roll. Third line C's are easily replaceable within the org. A third line C isnt my primary concern as a GM. My concern would be getting two stud D men under contract, and I need the cap space to do it. I can worry about the 3 C when my D are done.

Coyle is the most tradeable contract, and as a GM with a bigtime cap crunch, I know I am not going to get a trade deadline type offer. Considering he went for a 4th and a prospect to the Bruins, a 2nd and prospect is solid.

Meier for Coyle is a joke, I understand your view of not liking the original trade and probably would side with you in the end. But Meier for coyle is actually a joke or it better be ha

" Third line C's are easily replaceable within the org. A third line C isnt my primary concern as a GM "

pretty much explains why SJ can't win a Cup.

and it's good for you if you believe Middleton will be an NHL dmen. Doesn't matter if the team you're trading with doesn't believe in that

I'm not serious (I mean I would if you would but I know SJ isn't moving him). It was just an answer about how much this current middleton/pick for coyle trade is lopsided

yeah, soooooooo lopsided.... its not like he went for waaaaay less at the trade deadline, which is when player values are maximized trade wise. Psh... terrible trade. I'm done with you. You dont have a clue.

I mean you're thinking we're moving Coyle and I have no clue

Oh so your a comedian. Send Pastrnak and DeBrusk and you can have Meier

I would say give me your team but no thanks, mine is better

Nah, he's not a comedian. He's just clueless. I muted the guy. Trying to say a third liner is worth more than a 2nd and middling prospect is laughable. Especially considering he went for a middling prospect and a 4th at the deadline last year. LOL. Wait, you're right, he is a comedian.

Are you Jack Edwards? I mean, the attitude, unrealistic trade ideas etc all make sense if you are in fact Jack Edwards.

Meier doesn’t get Coyle, Meier gets Pastrnak, easily. Coyle is a glorified 3rd liner, likely a 4th liner in a year or two. And in two years Meier will be better than Marchand and Pastrnak.

must be a leafs fan to be that delusional lmao

Meier isn't even close to 88 so 63 forget that right about now

If you think it takes Meier to get Coyle then I’d say delusion is running fairly rampant in your head as well, Jack.

previous comments seem to have disappeared but said it, it was just an answer to the people saying they could get coyle for middleton/2nd, not a realistic trade