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NYR EDM Trade

Created by: NuttySquirrel
Initial Creation Date: Aug 8, 2019
Published: Aug 8 at 9:52 am
Team: 2019-20 Dallas Stars
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Puljujärvi, Jesse1$1,000,000
Trades
DAL
  1. Kreider, Chris
NYR
  1. Faksa, Radek
  2. Mascherin, Adam
  3. 2021 1st round pick (DAL)
  4. 2021 3rd round pick (DAL)
Additional Details:
2021 3rd becomes 2021 2nd if Stars re-sign Kreider
DAL
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [RFA Rights]
  2. 2020 4th round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Janmark, Mattias
  2. Honka, Julius [RFA Rights]
  3. 2021 6th round pick (DAL)
Buyouts
  • Valeri Nichushkin: $700,000
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
DAL
DAL
EDM
DAL
DAL
2021
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
2022
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$81,955,832$932,500$6,137,500-$455,832
Left WingCenterRight Wing
DAL
Benn, Jamie
$9,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
DAL
Seguin, Tyler
$9,850,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
DAL
Radulov, Alexander
$6,250,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 3
NYR
Kreider, Chris
$4,625,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 1
DAL
Hintz, Roope
$811,667
C, LW
RFA - 1
DAL
Pavelski, Joe
$7,000,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 3
DAL
Gurianov, Denis
$894,166
LW
RFA - 1
DAL
Dickinson, Jason
$1,500,000
C
RFA - 2
DAL
Perry, Corey
$1,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
DAL
Cogliano, Andrew
$3,250,000
LW, RW, C
NTC
UFA - 2
DAL
Dellandrea, Ty
$894,167
C
RFA - 3
Puljujärvi, Jesse
$1,000,000
RW
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
DAL
Lindell, Esa
$5,800,000
LD
UFA - 6
DAL
Klingberg, John
$4,250,000
RD
UFA - 3
DAL
Bishop, Ben
$4,916,666
G
NMC
UFA - 4
DAL
Heiskanen, Miro
$894,166
LD
RFA - 2
DAL
Johns, Stephen
$2,350,000
RD
UFA - 2
DAL
Khudobin, Anton
$2,500,000
G
UFA - 1
DAL
Sekera, Andrej
$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 1
DAL
Polák, Roman
$1,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
DAL
Oleksiak, Jamie
$2,137,500
LD
UFA - 2
DAL
Hanzal, Martin
$4,750,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
DAL
Comeau, Blake
$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2

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Aug 8 at 10:00
#1
Biased Opinion
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 1,296
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I know what I hate and I don't hate this...

Aside from the lack of cap space and that it would require some additional moves, it seems fair based on perceived value.

*dodges chair that someone from the comment section will inevitably throw*
Aug 8 at 10:05
#2
Burgers and Hockey
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 8,135
Likes: 3,428
EDM trade..yes. Janmark has no real slot in our roster and I'd like to give a chance for Puljujärvi

NYR trade...nah. If that's Kreider's asking price, it's just too much. One year of player that has never scored over 30 goals a year and his career high is 53 points... While BUF acquired Skinner, who outplays Kreider in all of the mentioned statistics, by a low prospect, 2nd, 3rd and 6th... Yeah how about no.
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Aug 8 at 10:09
#3
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 660
Likes: 199
Quoting: BurgerBoss
EDM trade..yes. Janmark has no real slot in our roster and I'd like to give a chance for Puljujärvi

NYR trade...nah. If that's Kreider's asking price, it's just too much. One year of player that has never scored over 30 goals a year and his career high is 53 points... While BUF acquired Skinner, who outplays Kreider in all of the mentioned statistics, by a low prospect, 2nd, 3rd and 6th... Yeah how about no.


That's actually an interesting point. Why should NYR get so much for Kreider when there's a good comparable that got moved for a far smaller price.
Aug 8 at 10:12
#4
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 226
Likes: 17
Quoting: TheChief
That's actually an interesting point. Why should NYR get so much for Kreider when there's a good comparable that got moved for a far smaller price.


That trade was considered a steal and Carolina also knew that there was no chance that Skinner was going to resign with them
Aug 8 at 10:16
#5
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 660
Likes: 199
Quoting: TheDime99
That trade was considered a steal and Carolina also knew that there was no chance that Skinner was going to resign with them


So? It's all but confirmed that NYR can afford to resign Kreider due to their bad financial state, so they lose that leverage too.
Aug 8 at 10:19
#6
Burgers and Hockey
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 8,135
Likes: 3,428
Quoting: TheChief
That's actually an interesting point. Why should NYR get so much for Kreider when there's a good comparable that got moved for a far smaller price.


Skinner trade was a f*ck-up from Canes. NYR will get a bigger return for sure, but I'm almost certain the deal isn't going to be as favorable for NYR as they and their fans would wish.
Aug 8 at 11:04
#7
Tspky
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 2,748
Likes: 605
Quoting: TheChief
So? It's all but confirmed that NYR can afford to resign Kreider due to their bad financial state, so they lose that leverage too.


look at the rangers overview at the main page, the rangers have 17m coming off of their forward salary cap for next year, with their buyout only going up by 2m.
With no one else notable to sign, i think they'll be okay.
It's a mistake to give kreider over 6.5m for anything more than 5 years, but in general resigning him will not as big a problem as people make it out to be.

Georgiev won't get much, they can let strome walk easily and same with fast.

View it like this
Namestnikov + fast = difference in shatty's buyout
Beleskey Salary + Strome Salary = 5m in cap space
Salary goes up about 2-3m per year, which will be an 84m cap most likely so an extra what, 2.5?
7m in cap space to resign Kreider (who already makes about 4.5 and will at most get 3m more but that would be a mistake) and then sign two bottom pair forwards for cheap. pretty simple if you ask me
Aug 8 at 11:19
#8
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 6,072
Likes: 1,306
From Edmonton's side I think the trade value isn't terrible, but those pieces aren't really of much interest. Honka is nearly 24, has had 3 stabs at the NHL and can't put up points - and there really isn't much else to his game. Janmark is a bottom-6 winger in the middle of his career, Edmonton has about 20 of those guys. They need a 3C and 2nd line wingers... Faksa, for instance.
Aug 8 at 2:18
#9
BootBoi
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,443
Likes: 295
Pseudo tempting, but Jan's cap hit & Honka's inability, so far, are powerful deterrents.
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Aug 9 at 3:40
#10
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 42
Likes: 9
Quoting: TheChief
So? It's all but confirmed that NYR can afford to resign Kreider due to their bad financial state, so they lose that leverage too.


I think NYR think long and hard if you simply give up Faksa and Mascherin (and keep the picks). They'd get a proven solid player in Faksa and a prospect with a lot of potential in Mascherin, along with shedding about $2.5M in cap space.
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