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Trades

Created by: csick
Initial Creation Date: Aug 8, 2019
Published: Aug 8 at 11:26 am
Team: 2019-20 Anaheim Ducks
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Brassard, Derick1$3,000,000
Trades
ANA
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  2. Ullmark, Linus
BUF
  1. Henrique, Adam
  2. Ritchie, Nick
  3. Miller, Ryan
  4. 2020 3rd round pick (ANA)
Buyouts
  • Corey Perry: $2,625,000
  • Simon Despres: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
ANA
ANA
ANA
ANA
2021
ANA
ANA
ANA
ANA
ANA
ANA
ANA
2022
ANA
ANA
ANA
ANA
ANA
ANA
ANA
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$65,378,332$0$1,115,000$16,121,668
Left WingCenterRight Wing
ANA
Comtois, Maxime
$820,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
ANA
Getzlaf, Ryan
$8,250,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
ANA
Kase, Ondrej
$2,600,000
RW
RFA - 2
ANA
Rakell, Rickard
$3,789,444
C, RW, LW
UFA - 3
ANA
Steel, Sam
$863,333
C
RFA - 2
ANA
Silfverberg, Jakob
$5,250,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
ANA
Shore, Devin
$2,300,000
LW, C, RW
RFA - 1
Brassard, Derick
$3,000,000
C
UFA - 1
ANA
Terry, Troy
$925,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
ANA
Deslauriers, Nicolas
$950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
ANA
Rowney, Carter
$1,133,333
C, RW
UFA - 2
ANA
Sprong, Daniel
$750,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
ANA
Fowler, Cam
$6,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 7
ANA
Manson, Josh
$4,100,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
ANA
Gibson, John
$6,400,000
G
UFA - 8
ANA
Lindholm, Hampus
$5,205,556
LD
UFA - 3
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 3
BUF
Ullmark, Linus
$1,325,000
G
RFA - 1
ANA
Guhle, Brendan
$697,500
LD
RFA - 1
ANA
Larsson, Jacob
$894,166
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
ANA
Holzer, Korbinian
$850,000
RD
UFA - 1
ANA
Eaves, Patrick
$3,150,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 1
ANA
Del Zotto, Michael
$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
ANA
Kesler, Ryan
$6,875,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 3

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Aug 8 at 12:19
#1
Ryan Miller Is God
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 126
Likes: 61
I like some of this, and yes, I am heavily biased towards Miller. However, if we're just going to give you a large upgrade in goaltending age and potential-wise, getting tied up in Henrique's contract doesn't cut it. Young goalies with close starting potential are almost always first, and rarely traded.

The Sabres game plan is apparently either short-term contracts on older players (that expire before Dahlin needs to get his payday) or bringing in younger guys. I think this means there's an impasse since I'm sure Ducks fans would riot if they lost Steel, Terry, Comtois, or Kase. I'm under no illusions that Rakell would ever be a part of this.

Ristolainen, Ullmark -> Lundestrom, Ritchie, Miller, 2020 2nd, 2021 3rd?
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Aug 8 at 1:21
#2
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,839
Likes: 575
I would pass. Might as well see what ristolainen does with the new coach. Henrique at almost 6 for 5 years sounds awful.
Aug 8 at 1:33
#3
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 817
Likes: 203
Quoting: AudioCats
I like some of this, and yes, I am heavily biased towards Miller. However, if we're just going to give you a large upgrade in goaltending age and potential-wise, getting tied up in Henrique's contract doesn't cut it. Young goalies with close starting potential are almost always first, and rarely traded.

The Sabres game plan is apparently either short-term contracts on older players (that expire before Dahlin needs to get his payday) or bringing in younger guys. I think this means there's an impasse since I'm sure Ducks fans would riot if they lost Steel, Terry, Comtois, or Kase. I'm under no illusions that Rakell would ever be a part of this.

Ristolainen, Ullmark -> Lundestrom, Ritchie, Miller, 2020 2nd, 2021 3rd?


I hate it. I think Risto is getting massively overvalued. He's a 5-6 D on a good team and a PP specialist, yet BUF fans are requesting top 4 prices. Pass.

Moreover, it makes very little sense for a re-tooling team to move their young and recently drafted players. With players like Comtois and Jones, Ritchie is somewhat expendable. However, Lundestrom has a bright future ahead of him with this team.

Quoting: sabres89
I would pass. Might as well see what ristolainen does with the new coach. Henrique at almost 6 for 5 years sounds awful.


I would pass too. We need a legit top 4 RD. Giving up a strong 2-way player like Henrique for a player who can't defend properly and needs sheltering like he's still a prospect is bad resource management. We need Henrique to protect Steel and co. from being forced into spots they aren't ready for. EZ pass.
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Aug 8 at 1:36
#4
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 4,730
Likes: 1,918
Quoting: mytduxfan
I hate it. I think Risto is getting massively overvalued. He's a 5-6 D on a good team and a PP specialist, yet BUF fans are requesting top 4 prices. Pass.

Moreover, it makes very little sense for a re-tooling team to move their young and recently drafted players. With players like Comtois and Jones, Ritchie is somewhat expendable. However, Lundestrom has a bright future ahead of him with this team.



I would pass too. We need a legit top 4 RD. Giving up a strong 2-way player like Henrique for a player who can't defend properly and needs sheltering like he's still a prospect is bad resource management. We need Henrique to protect Steel and co. from being forced into spots they aren't ready for. EZ pass.


Except that he is a top 4d....
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Aug 8 at 2:32
#5
First NY Then LA
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 7,330
Likes: 3,037
Quoting: wojme
Except that he is a top 4d....


Only on your team . . .
Aug 8 at 2:34
#6
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 4,730
Likes: 1,918
Quoting: OldNYIfan
Only on your team . . .


On most teams...
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Aug 8 at 3:31
#7
Ryan Miller Is God
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 126
Likes: 61
Quoting: mytduxfan
I hate it. I think Risto is getting massively overvalued. He's a 5-6 D on a good team and a PP specialist, yet BUF fans are requesting top 4 prices. Pass.

Moreover, it makes very little sense for a re-tooling team to move their young and recently drafted players. With players like Comtois and Jones, Ritchie is somewhat expendable. However, Lundestrom has a bright future ahead of him with this team.



I would pass too. We need a legit top 4 RD. Giving up a strong 2-way player like Henrique for a player who can't defend properly and needs sheltering like he's still a prospect is bad resource management. We need Henrique to protect Steel and co. from being forced into spots they aren't ready for. EZ pass.


Fair enough. We're not getting younger by much in that trade, giving up a good younger goalie and a 24 year old defenseman, closer to their primes if you're "re-tooling" and not going for a full rebuild. Just responding to what the OP wanted to see if we could come to an agreement. Both teams want what the other side is unwilling to give up.

If you want a stud top-4 RD (historically very expensive) you're gonna have to pay through the nose for it one way or the other, as I don't think you have any prospects that really fill that role. Thrun and Lacombe are both lefties.
Aug 8 at 9:24
#8
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 817
Likes: 203
Quoting: wojme
Except that he is a top 4d....


Not a good one. He has to be carried by a legit top 4 and is only not a complete liability if you shelter him and give him loads of PP time. Not worth it. We need defenders who can, you know... actually defend.

Quoting: AudioCats
Fair enough. We're not getting younger by much in that trade, giving up a good younger goalie and a 24 year old defenseman, closer to their primes if you're "re-tooling" and not going for a full rebuild. Just responding to what the OP wanted to see if we could come to an agreement. Both teams want what the other side is unwilling to give up.

If you want a stud top-4 RD (historically very expensive) you're gonna have to pay through the nose for it one way or the other, as I don't think you have any prospects that really fill that role. Thrun and Lacombe are both lefties.


We don’t really need a younger GT as we have a bunch in the system and Gibby is going to be #1 for the next 10 years. I think the idea was just to get Miller back in BUF, which he won’t do because he wants to be in LA for his wife, and Ullmark was just a replacement.

Legit top 4 RD are rarely available. I don’t think we’re getting one. Going to have to draft one or hope Guhle/Larsson/Mahura take that next step. I am not so hung up on handeness. A good player is good regardless of whether he does or does not shoot right while playing on the right side.

In any event, I clearly don’t rate Risto as highly as BUF fans. Probably best he’s kept around. Don’t see him returning the assets you’d expect for a legit top 4 D-man.
 
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