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Got cap space to burn so why not try

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Team: 2019-20 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 9, 2019
Published: Aug. 9, 2019
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It probably gets matched but it's a no risk move
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$9,500,000
1$1,395,052
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Puljujärvi, Jesse$1,395,052No Compensation
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$74,054,813$0$3,532,500$7,445,187
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,571,429$5,571,429
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
UFA - 4
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW, C
UFA - 6
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RW
UFA - 4
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$885,833$885,833 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
UFA - 1
$1,395,052$1,395,052
RW
UFA
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$1,975,000$1,975,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C
RFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
G
UFA - 2
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RD
UFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000
G
UFA - 1
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$3,450,000$3,450,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,375,000$1,375,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$735,000$735,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2

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Aug. 9, 2019 at 8:35 a.m.
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Mikko is signing in KHL.
Aug. 9, 2019 at 8:43 a.m.
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Because puljujarvi is a bust
Aug. 9, 2019 at 8:46 a.m.
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Mikko is signing in KHL.


Mikko isn't going anywhere without his personal chef Mackinnon. He spoon-fed him so well the last 2 seasons...
Aug. 9, 2019 at 8:47 a.m.
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Because puljujarvi is a bust


Maybe he is but maybe Edmonton destroys their prospects? Isn't it worth the risk to find out?
Aug. 9, 2019 at 8:49 a.m.
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Mikko isn't going anywhere without his personal chef Mackinnon. He spoon-fed him so well the last 2 seasons...


He’s goin to Kazan. Sorry. Just how it is.
Aug. 9, 2019 at 8:51 a.m.
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Maybe he is but maybe Edmonton destroys their prospects? Isn't it worth the risk to find out?


Not in this situation, you bring him in and dont offer him a top 6 position which if he was going to have a breakout it wound need to be on a scoring line, not going to do much better with jost and Wilson, compher and donskoi beat him out of those middle 6 RW spots every day of the week
Aug. 9, 2019 at 8:52 a.m.
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Mikko isn't going anywhere without his personal chef Mackinnon. He spoon-fed him so well the last 2 seasons...


That lady you're talking to is a troll, dont waste your breathe
Aug. 9, 2019 at 8:53 a.m.
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Maybe he is but maybe Edmonton destroys their prospects? Isn't it worth the risk to find out?


You also make an enemy out of edm, possibly other teams
Aug. 9, 2019 at 8:59 a.m.
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Not in this situation, you bring him in and dont offer him a top 6 position which if he was going to have a breakout it wound need to be on a scoring line, not going to do much better with jost and Wilson, compher and donskoi beat him out of those middle 6 RW spots every day of the week


*shrugs*

He was drafted 3 years ago as a can't miss prospect that the hockey world was shocked to see "fall" to 4th overall. It's quite possible that Edmonton has done a horrendous job developing over the years and if he were wearing any other jersey might be apart of this elite RFA class this summer. He might actually be a good player that can be salvaged so why not take a flyer and let him battle it out in training camp? It's a luxury Colorado (or any team with cap space) has so why not use it?
Aug. 9, 2019 at 9:03 a.m.
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You also make an enemy out of edm, possibly other teams


If it can improve your team you gotta do it. If you're doing your job well you're likely going to make enemies through the process because other GMs are your direct competition. Last thing you want is to be buddies with another GM and only make one-sided trades with them *gestures at Pierre Dorion and Doug Wilson*
Aug. 9, 2019 at 9:05 a.m.
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*shrugs*

He was drafted 3 years ago as a can't miss prospect that the hockey world was shocked to see "fall" to 4th overall. It's quite possible that Edmonton has done a horrendous job developing over the years and if he were wearing any other jersey might be apart of this elite RFA class this summer. He might actually be a good player that can be salvaged so why not take a flyer and let him battle it out in training camp? It's a luxury Colorado (or any team with cap space) has so why not use it?


I would say because they did it already with yakapov, zand they have their own players they need to get into the forward group like kamanev, Bowers, Greer, kaut
Aug. 9, 2019 at 9:11 a.m.
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I would say because they did it already with yakapov, zand they have their own players they need to get into the forward group like kamanev, Bowers, Greer, kaut


And I would argue that was still a gamble worth taking. Let Puljujarvi battle it out with the players you mentioned. Worst-case Ontario you waive him and he toils away in the AHL for a season or he gets claimed by another team with the cap space to do so. No risk but possibly (even if you think its improbable) a big reward
Aug. 9, 2019 at 9:14 a.m.
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And I would argue that was still a gamble worth taking. Let Puljujarvi battle it out with the players you mentioned. Worst-case Ontario you waive him and he toils away in the AHL for a season or he gets claimed by another team with the cap space to do so. No risk but possibly (even if you think its improbable) a big reward


I see your point and appreciate the TPB's quote.
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Aug. 9, 2019 at 10:57 a.m.
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He’s goin to Kazan. Sorry. Just how it is.


#alternativefacts
Aug. 9, 2019 at 12:08 p.m.
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Mikko is signing in KHL.


and you are a terrible troll, sorry thats just how it is
Aug. 9, 2019 at 12:12 p.m.
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Because puljujarvi is a bust


hes a reclaim and probably a bust, but hes worth the gamble, similar to how yak was....but with puljujarvi case there is still more hope in him over Yak, who still has the skill just cant process the game fast enough.

The fact that terrible run org in Edmonton tried to convert puljujarvi into a crashing the net presence big body guy, its mind blowing. Draft a guy and try to make him do the exact opposite of why he was drafted so high in the first place. I am positive if Avs used him on the 2nd pp the exact same way they use Rants, puljujarvi would have a 20 goal season
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Aug. 9, 2019 at 12:23 p.m.
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hes a reclaim and probably a bust, but hes worth the gamble, similar to how yak was....but with puljujarvi case there is still more hope in him over Yak, who still has the skill just cant process the game fast enough.

The fact that terrible run org in Edmonton tried to convert puljujarvi into a crashing the net presence big body guy, its mind blowing. Draft a guy and try to make him do the exact opposite of why he was drafted so high in the first place. I am positive if Avs used him on the 2nd pp the exact same way they use Rants, puljujarvi would have a 20 goal season


So who do you take out of the lineup, Wilson would be the most expensive press box guy
Aug. 9, 2019 at 12:47 p.m.
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So who do you take out of the lineup, Wilson would be the most expensive press box guy


to be honest, probably Kamanev and Nieto if its a fully healthy line up. Wilson will probably just end up getting hurt sometime in the season which is problem solved.
In theory I like the idea of puljujarvi but in reality, Avs have Bura and Jost, maybe even to a lesser extent Compher, that they need to focus on in getting more offense out of. puljujarvi would just be more of the same. If they didnt have Jost or Bura anymore then it makes more sense as the guy you are trying to build up
Aug. 9, 2019 at 1:01 p.m.
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to be honest, probably Kamanev and Nieto if its a fully healthy line up. Wilson will probably just end up getting hurt sometime in the season which is problem solved.
In theory I like the idea of puljujarvi but in reality, Avs have Bura and Jost, maybe even to a lesser extent Compher, that they need to focus on in getting more offense out of. puljujarvi would just be more of the same. If they didnt have Jost or Bura anymore then it makes more sense as the guy you are trying to build up


My second point was there is to much of a log jam, he doesnt even have bellemare in the lineup, calvert is scratched, there goes your PK which was a weakness for a long time last year
Aug. 9, 2019 at 1:05 p.m.
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My second point was there is to much of a log jam, he doesnt even have bellemare in the lineup, calvert is scratched, there goes your PK which was a weakness for a long time last year


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to be honest, probably Kamanev and Nieto if its a fully healthy line up. Wilson will probably just end up getting hurt sometime in the season which is problem solved.
In theory I like the idea of puljujarvi but in reality, Avs have Bura and Jost, maybe even to a lesser extent Compher, that they need to focus on in getting more offense out of. puljujarvi would just be more of the same. If they didnt have Jost or Bura anymore then it makes more sense as the guy you are trying to build up


Full disclosure I put about 2 seconds of thought into who should be on popcorn duty in the press box. Feel free to change that to anything you can imagine
Aug. 9, 2019 at 1:13 p.m.
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My second point was there is to much of a log jam, he doesnt even have bellemare in the lineup, calvert is scratched, there goes your PK which was a weakness for a long time last year


OH I know I wasnt critique the line up, its just the idea of Pool Party that is tempting. If there was a coach to get the most out of him, it would be Bednar but the idea of trading for him is long term outlook, the roster today wouldnt be able to make room for him with the other guys they need to figure out first.

In a perfect world if Avs could get him, make an arrangement for him to play in the KHL for a year, that way they retain his rights and avoid any waiver wire nonsense, and they can bring him over next season once the roster opens up, no Wilson and clear picture in what you ahve in Bura, Kamanev (if he stays healthy) and jost in a true Top 9 role.
Aug. 12, 2019 at 9:50 a.m.
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hes a reclaim and probably a bust, but hes worth the gamble, similar to how yak was....but with puljujarvi case there is still more hope in him over Yak, who still has the skill just cant process the game fast enough.

The fact that terrible run org in Edmonton tried to convert puljujarvi into a crashing the net presence big body guy, its mind blowing. Draft a guy and try to make him do the exact opposite of why he was drafted so high in the first place. I am positive if Avs used him on the 2nd pp the exact same way they use Rants, puljujarvi would have a 20 goal season


Just read article by Edmonton journal writer saying that Jesse's teammates asked not to play with him, and he couldn't follow direction, or be where he was suppose to be, he would bump into his own players on the pp not knowing the proper set up.... who wants a guy like that
Aug. 12, 2019 at 10:26 a.m.
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Just read article by Edmonton journal writer saying that Jesse's teammates asked not to play with him, and he couldn't follow direction, or be where he was suppose to be, he would bump into his own players on the pp not knowing the proper set up.... who wants a guy like that


I'm not sure how much stock I would put into that. No idea who wrote the article you read but I'm pretty sure (feel free to correct me) Jim Matheson works out of the Edmonton Journal and he's widely recognized as a joke. There's only a handful of "insiders" that I feel are worthy of that title. There's a lot of outlandish takes and misinformation that is spread to generate clicks.

But even if that was true, it's still possible the blame could be on the organization not teaching him as opposed to a player not listening. Would like to see how he does on any other team and I still think he's a gamble worth taking if you don't need to give up any considerable assets to acquire him
Aug. 12, 2019 at 10:34 a.m.
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I'm not sure how much stock I would put into that. No idea who wrote the article you read but I'm pretty sure (feel free to correct me) Jim Matheson works out of the Edmonton Journal and he's widely recognized as a joke. There's only a handful of "insiders" that I feel are worthy of that title. There's a lot of outlandish takes and misinformation that is spread to generate clicks.

But even if that was true, it's still possible the blame could be on the organization not teaching him as opposed to a player not listening. Would like to see how he does on any other team and I still think he's a gamble worth taking if you don't need to give up any considerable assets to acquire him


Kurt leavins...

https://www.traderumours.com/index.php?blog=5985&s=100
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Thank you for sharing. The fact that it wasn't Jim adds to the credibility of it. It doesn't change my stance on whether he's a risk worth taking. Anything and everything out of Edmonton should be questioned
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