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Kreider Trade

Created by: bbell080
Team: 2019-20 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 9, 2019
Published: Aug. 9, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Getting Kreider seems more like a win-now move, but the Sens should grab him now, give him those 1st line minutes to showcase himself, and then flip him to a contender at the deadline for more than they paid. It's not a classic Sens move, in that they are planning to get more than they paid, but I think it would be a good move. I'm assuming that Kreider waives for the same reason Zaitsev did, he has a chance for a bigger impact, and there is an understanding in this case that he would be moved at the deadline.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,000,000
Trades
OTT
  1. Kreider, Chris
Additional Details:
The Sens are doing NYR a favour here in taking money off their books, but Kreider is a good player with value, so it's not like the Marleau trade. Jaros is a solid third pairing guy with potential, and a 3rd helps save some face for NYR, especially when he's flipped for multiple picks in February.
NYR
  1. Jaros, Christian
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (OTT)
Buyouts
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$74,593,332$0$4,890,000$6,906,668

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Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,625,000$4,625,000
LW
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UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LW
UFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 6
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$1,650,000$1,650,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,937,500$2,937,500
C
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$710,000$710K)
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$736,666$736,666 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
C
UFA - 1
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$360,000$360K)
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
G
UFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$900,000$900,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$450,000$450K)
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW
UFA - 1
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$4,650,000$4,650,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
RW
UFA - 2

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Aug. 9, 2019 at 10:09 a.m.
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Lol not enough and Ottawa doesnt need him
Aug. 9, 2019 at 10:13 a.m.
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Has a NTC and laughs at ottawa
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Aug. 9, 2019 at 10:14 a.m.
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Ignoring the fact that Melnyk is cheap and won't want to pay Kreider in anything but monopoly money, I would have to imagine that a big market like New York would provide Kreider an adequate stage to showcase himself. He's still going to get top 6 minutes in NY and will be playing with better players than he would in Ottawa (gotta pad those stats right?). Also once Ottawa trades him at the deadline they gotta get a return for Kreider so large that it makes up for the 2 assets they gave up to acquire him. Not to mention that giving him big minutes would mean less ice time for all these young players Ottawa is trying to develop. I like your idea in principle but Kreider might not be the best example
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Aug. 9, 2019 at 10:16 a.m.
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Not a bad idea and wouldn't be mad if Ottawa gave up a second in either of the next two drafts for him instead of the third. At TDL could def flip for a first rounder or two seconds especially giving him line 1 and PP1 time
Aug. 9, 2019 at 10:16 a.m.
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Kreider has a 11 team no trade list, Can guarantee you Ottawa is on that list.
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Aug. 9, 2019 at 10:18 a.m.
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Even if he plays 60 minutes a night, he would still have the problem of being an Ottawa Senator. He's a decent player but not good enough to showcase himself adequately with this team.
Aug. 9, 2019 at 10:34 a.m.
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Quoting: Big_Euge
Even if he plays 60 minutes a night, he would still have the problem of being an Ottawa Senator. He's a decent player but not good enough to showcase himself adequately with this team.


Who would have the worst +/- in the league? Kreider as an Ottawa Senator @ 60 minutes a night or Ristolainen just as is?
Aug. 9, 2019 at 11:11 a.m.
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Genuine question: Do you really think Gorton is dumber than Dorion? Because he'd have to be to accept that trade. NYR are looking for a 1st+ for him. Not your garbage.
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Aug. 9, 2019 at 11:12 a.m.
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I love how teams think they can just offer below market because "we're doing you a favor". This only applies to CAP DUMPS. Players with value, just like you said he does, can be traded to any team wanting to improve their team. Meaning there will be plenty of interest in Kreider and they won;t have to go begging the OTT to take him off their hands..........
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Aug. 9, 2019 at 11:18 a.m.
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I wouldn't say this is "doing the Rangers a favor". That trade is more like highway robbery and has little chance of happening. The Rangers don't need any "favors" after the Shatty buyout. Getting Kreider will cost a minimum of a first round pick plus a prospect, preferably one that people have heard of.
Aug. 9, 2019 at 11:22 a.m.
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Yeah Sens garbage doesn't get you Kreider.
 
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