Top 10 players at their positions right now

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Created by: BCAPP

Team: 2019-20 Custom Team

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 9, 2019

Published: Aug. 9, 2019

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I saw someone make some stupid joke post but it got me curious.

Note I am talking about their ability right now. If someone is 31 and likely to decline relative to someone 23 and likely to improve that effects their value but not their rank on these lists.

Let the arguments ensue

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
60	$81,500,000	$405,881,153	$0	$360,000	-$324,381,153

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Ovechkin, Alex $9,538,462$9,538,462 LW M-NTC UFA - 2	McDavid, Connor $12,500,000$12,500,000 C UFA - 7	Kucherov, Nikita $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW UFA - 8
Gaudreau, Johnny $6,750,000$6,750,000 LW UFA - 3	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 6	Kane, Patrick $2,625,000$2,625,000 RW NMC UFA - 4
Hall, Taylor $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW UFA - 1	MacKinnon, Nathan $6,300,000$6,300,000 C UFA - 4	Stone, Mark $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW NMC UFA - 8
Draisaitl, Leon $8,500,000$8,500,000 C, LW UFA - 6	Malkin, Evgeni $9,500,000$9,500,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Wheeler, Blake $8,250,000$8,250,000 RW NMC UFA - 5
Benn, Jamie $9,500,000$9,500,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 6	Bergeron, Patrice $6,875,000$6,875,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Pastrnak, David $6,666,667$6,666,667 RW UFA - 4
Giroux, Claude $4,137,500$4,137,500 RW, C NMC UFA - 3	Matthews, Auston $11,634,000$11,634,000 C UFA - 5	Rantanen, Mikko $700,000$700,000
Marchand, Brad $6,125,000$6,125,000 LW NMC UFA - 6	Barkov, Aleksander $5,900,000$5,900,000 C UFA - 3	Marner, Mitchell $700,000$700,000
Panarin, Artemi $11,642,857$11,642,857 LW NMC UFA - 7	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 6	Tarasenko, Vladimir $3,750,000$3,750,000 RW NTC UFA - 4
Skinner, Jeff $9,000,000$9,000,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 8	Stamkos, Steven $8,500,000$8,500,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 5	Kessel, Phil $6,800,000$6,800,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3
Huberdeau, Jonathan $5,900,000$5,900,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 4	Kopitar, Anze $10,000,000$10,000,000 C NMC UFA - 5	Voracek, Jakub $8,250,000$8,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 5

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hedman, Victor $7,875,000$7,875,000 LD NMC UFA - 6	Karlsson, Erik $10,000,000$10,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 8	Vasilevskiy, Andrei $3,500,000$3,500,000 G UFA - 1
Giordano, Mark $3,375,000$3,375,000 LD NTC UFA - 3	Doughty, Drew $11,000,000$11,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 8	Gibson, John $6,400,000$6,400,000 G UFA - 8
Josi, Roman $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD UFA - 1	Jones, Seth $5,400,000$5,400,000 RD UFA - 3	Bobrovsky, Sergei $10,000,000$10,000,000 G NMC UFA - 7
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD UFA - 3	Carlson, John $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 7	Holtby, Braden $6,100,000$6,100,000 G M-NTC UFA - 1
Ekman-Larsson, Oliver $7,260,000$7,260,000 LD NMC UFA - 8	Subban, P.K. $9,000,000$9,000,000 RD UFA - 3	Bishop, Ben $4,916,667$4,916,667 G NMC UFA - 4
Slavin, Jaccob $5,300,000$5,300,000 LD UFA - 6	Burns, Brent $5,280,000$5,280,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 6	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 7
Chabot, Thomas $863,333$863,333 ($360,000$360K) LD UFA - 1	Hamilton, Dougie $5,750,000$5,750,000 RD UFA - 2	Rask, Tuukka $7,000,000$7,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Werenski, Zach $700,000$700,000	Trouba, Jacob $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD UFA - 7	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Fowler, Cam $6,500,000$6,500,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 7	Dumba, Matt $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD UFA - 4	Hellebuyck, Connor $6,166,667$6,166,667 G UFA - 5
McDonagh, Ryan $6,750,000$6,750,000 LD NTC UFA - 7	Klingberg, John $4,250,000$4,250,000 RD UFA - 3	Raanta, Antti $4,250,000$4,250,000 G UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Provorov, Ivan $700,000$700,000
		Lindholm, Hampus $2,602,778$2,602,778 LD UFA - 3
		Pietrangelo, Alex $6,500,000$6,500,000 RD NTC UFA - 1
		McAvoy, Charlie $700,000$700,000
		Ekblad, Aaron $7,500,000$7,500,000 RD UFA - 6
		Letang, Kris $7,250,000$7,250,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3
		Radulov, Alexander $6,250,000$6,250,000 RW NMC UFA - 3
		Landeskog, Gabriel $5,571,429$5,571,429 LW, C M-NTC UFA - 2
		Scheifele, Mark $6,125,000$6,125,000 C UFA - 5
		Seguin, Tyler $9,850,000$9,850,000 C, RW NMC UFA - 8
		Kuznetsov, Evgeny $3,900,000$3,900,000 C M-NTC UFA - 6
		Teräväinen, Teuvo $5,400,000$5,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 5
		Ehlers, Nikolaj $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW, LW UFA - 6
		Lee, Anders $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW NTC UFA - 7
		Arvidsson, Viktor $4,250,000$4,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 5
		Guentzel, Jake $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 5
		Kreider, Chris $4,625,000$4,625,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 1
		Eichel, Jack $10,000,000$10,000,000 C UFA - 7
		Pacioretty, Max $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 4

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FORWARDS (30)
Right Wing: Nikita Kucherov ($9,500,000) - Patrick Kane ($2,625,000) - Mark Stone ($9,500,000) - Blake Wheeler ($8,250,000) - David Pastrnak ($6,666,667) - Mikko Rantanen ($700,000) - Mitchell Marner ($700,000) - Vladimir Tarasenko ($3,750,000) - Phil Kessel ($6,800,000) - Jakub Voracek ($8,250,000)
Centre: Connor McDavid ($12,500,000) - Sidney Crosby ($8,700,000) - Nathan MacKinnon ($6,300,000) - Evgeni Malkin ($9,500,000) - Patrice Bergeron ($6,875,000) - Auston Matthews ($11,634,000) - Aleksander Barkov ($5,900,000) - John Tavares ($11,000,000) - Steven Stamkos ($8,500,000) - Anze Kopitar ($10,000,000)
Left Wing: Alex Ovechkin ($9,538,462) - Johnny Gaudreau ($6,750,000) - Taylor Hall ($3,000,000) - Leon Draisaitl ($8,500,000) - Jamie Benn ($9,500,000) - Claude Giroux ($4,137,500) - Brad Marchand ($6,125,000) - Artemi Panarin ($11,642,857) - Jeff Skinner ($9,000,000) - Jonathan Huberdeau ($5,900,000)

DEFENSE (20)
Right: Erik Karlsson ($10,000,000) - Drew Doughty ($11,000,000) - Seth Jones ($5,400,000) - John Carlson ($8,000,000) - P.K. Subban ($9,000,000) - Brent Burns ($5,280,000) - Dougie Hamilton ($5,750,000) - Jacob Trouba ($8,000,000) - Matt Dumba ($6,000,000) - John Klingberg ($4,250,000)
Left: Victor Hedman ($7,875,000) - Mark Giordano ($3,375,000) - Roman Josi ($4,000,000) - Morgan Rielly ($5,000,000) - Oliver Ekman-Larsson ($7,260,000) - Jaccob Slavin ($5,300,000) - Thomas Chabot ($863,333) - Zach Werenski ($700,000) - Cam Fowler ($6,500,000) - Ryan McDonagh ($6,750,000)

GOALTENDER (10)
Andrei Vasilevskiy ($3,500,000) - John Gibson ($6,400,000) - Sergei Bobrovsky ($10,000,000) - Braden Holtby ($6,100,000) - Ben Bishop ($4,916,667) - Carey Price ($10,500,000) - Tuukka Rask ($7,000,000) - Frederik Andersen ($5,000,000) - Connor Hellebuyck ($6,166,667) - Antti Raanta ($4,250,000)

DETAILS
Roster Size: 60
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Cap Hit: $405,881,153
Cap Space: -$324,381,153

Aug. 9, 2019 at 4:39 p.m.

Claesson4Norris

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Barkov should be no lower than 4th. Elite offensive player and far and away the best defensive forward in the game.

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Aug. 9, 2019 at 4:45 p.m.

KingLundqvist30

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To put Matthews and Kopitar on this list is an insult to many others

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Aug. 9, 2019 at 4:45 p.m.

BCAPP

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

Barkov should be no lower than 4th. Elite offensive player and far and away the best defensive forward in the game.

So I fully admit I don't watch all that much Florida hockey. I know he is a top end defensive player, but Bergeron is the best defensive forward of this generation. You're comfortable saying he is ahead of Bergeron already? Ahead of Kopitar too? Or this year's winner for the Selke O'Reilly? Or the runner up Stone? (or the other runner up Bergeron above)

Aug. 9, 2019 at 4:46 p.m.

Howyoudrouinnn

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That cap hit though

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Aug. 9, 2019 at 4:47 p.m.

PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

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Quoting: Grantedspace96

To put Matthews and Kopitar on this list is an insult to many others

Kopitar is an insult sure but Matthews, (if he plays a full 82 games) will jump to the top 5 for sure, possibly top 3.

Aug. 9, 2019 at 4:47 p.m.

Capitalfail67

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

Barkov should be no lower than 4th. Elite offensive player and far and away the best defensive forward in the game.

I agree Matthews isn’t Better than barkov or Tavares. I’d argue Kuzy when he has his **** together is better than Matthews.

Aug. 9, 2019 at 4:49 p.m.

BCAPP

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Quoting: Grantedspace96

To put Matthews and Kopitar on this list is an insult to many others

Kopitar is a tier below many of the others offensively, but is only behind Bergeron and maybe Barkov defensively.

Matthews is third in goals by a C since he joined the league 3 years ago http://hkref.com/tiny/J7W65 and has played the second least GP of the players in the top 10 (Malkin has played 7 less). He's first in goals per game. Hes the best goal scoring C in the league. That isn't an opinion, its a fact.

He's also 14th in points. So best goal scorer, just below top 10 in points. Not really sure why you think he shouldn't be top 10?

Aug. 9, 2019 at 4:53 p.m.

BCAPP

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Quoting: Capitalfail67

I agree Matthews isn’t Better than barkov or Tavares. I’d argue Kuzy when he has his **** together is better than Matthews.

Quoting: Grantedspace96

To put Matthews and Kopitar on this list is an insult to many others

Quoting: BCAPP

Just to expand on my Matthews comment. If we look at last two years:

Matthews is 8 in goals and 24th in points, which doesn't sound so great. http://hkref.com/tiny/zknFX But when you realize its all because he has been injured and look at per game stats, he jumps to again 1st in goals per game and 10th in points per game.

He is a top 10 C, as the best goal scoring c and bottom end top 10 by points in general. If you want to argue his injury concerns should keep him out of the top 10, I could accept that. But any other argument (unless its one I'm not aware), I suspect is just hating on him/Leafs

Aug. 9, 2019 at 4:57 p.m.

Claesson4Norris

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Quoting: BCAPP

Kopitar isn't really in that conversation anymore with the emergence of guys like ROR, Barkov and Stone, but I would definitely put him ahead of Bergeron.

Mark Stone is my favorite player, and for my Money he's a top 5 winger, and a top 3 defensive player in the league, but even he's pretty far off.

Barkov is by far the best when it comes to stopping zone entries, and breaking up plays in transition.

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Aug. 9, 2019 at 5:08 p.m.

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Byfuglien? IMO he's better than Trouba.

Aug. 9, 2019 at 5:10 p.m.

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BCAPP

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Quoting: Claesson4Norris

If you say si

Aug. 9, 2019 at 5:12 p.m.

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Claesson4Norris

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Quoting: BCAPP

If you say si

If you ask me, the top 5 is Barkov, Stone, Bergeron, O'Reilly and either Couturier or Landeskog.

Aug. 9, 2019 at 5:14 p.m.

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Letang is definitely top 10 RHD when healthy.

Aug. 9, 2019 at 5:14 p.m.

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LakeTrout

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This site has no love for Letang.

The man is still unreal and put up 56 in 65 last season

Aug. 9, 2019 at 5:27 p.m.

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Panarin, klingberg, mcdonagh, and gibson should be higher, lindholm, tkachuk and 1 of forsberg or arvidsson snubbed

Aug. 9, 2019 at 6:47 p.m.

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Over the last three years, you got all the top 25 point getters except Draisaitl, Barkov, Backstrom, and Monahan:
http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?aggregate=1&report=skaterpoints&reportType=season&seasonFrom=20162017&seasonTo=20182019&gameType=2&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&sort=evPoints,points

Good show.

Aug. 9, 2019 at 9:30 p.m.

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BCAPP

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Quoting: Eli

Draisatl is 4th on LW and Barkov is 7th for C's

Backstrom would have been there a year or so ago and perhaps should be above Kopitar. But I think he's losing a step. Also C is just so damn deep.

I don't think Monahan would even be in the top 14 C's for me

Aug. 9, 2019 at 9:32 p.m.

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BCAPP

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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan

Panarin, klingberg, mcdonagh, and gibson should be higher, lindholm, tkachuk and 1 of forsberg or arvidsson snubbed

Who should panarin be above on LW?

Gibson should be higher? He's second highest...

Who should be below Klingberg? I can't really say anyone besides maybe Dumba.

Who is Tkachuk or Lindholm or Tkachuk better than that's up there?

Maybe so on McDonough

Aug. 9, 2019 at 9:37 p.m.

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Quoting: BCAPP

Gibson should be the best and tkachuk is better than skinner

Aug. 10, 2019 at 3:00 a.m.

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BCAPP

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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan

Gibson should be the best and tkachuk is better than skinner

So your complaint is that Gibson is better than the reigning Vezina winner?

And I suppose on Skinner. The reason I like Skinner is he is one of the best pure goal scorers in the league. But you are right tkachuk is likely better than him at body other facets of the game

Aug. 10, 2019 at 11:51 a.m.

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Ragsandbluesfan

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Quoting: BCAPP

The vezina trophy isnt indicative of the best goalie in the league

Aug. 10, 2019 at 1:38 p.m.

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BCAPP

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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan

The vezina trophy isnt indicative of the best goalie in the league

It's indicative of the goalie who performed the best that year. I agree. But I would say Vasi has been a slightly better goalie than Gibson over the last 2-3 years. I'm not sure why that would be a hot take. For that matter I think most would say I have Gibson a bit high if anything.

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