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Patrik Laine is confident hell playing somewhere next season

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Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 16, 2019
Published: Aug. 16, 2019
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Aug. 16, 2019 at 3:17 p.m.
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I don't think that Montreal is risking its 2020 first, since the Canadiens are hosting the draft next June.
Aug. 16, 2019 at 3:18 p.m.
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Caufield or declined
Aug. 16, 2019 at 3:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
Caufield or declined


Yeeah thats too much
Aug. 16, 2019 at 3:22 p.m.
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I don't think that Montreal is risking its 2020 first, since the Canadiens are hosting the draft next June.


MB said if he can improve his team his going do it
Aug. 16, 2019 at 3:25 p.m.
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He said he's confident that he's playing somewhere. He never said somewhere else. Sounds like nothing but it's the entire meaning of the quote.
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Aug. 16, 2019 at 3:27 p.m.
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I think this is the type of package that would do it but I also wonder if it would another team would out bid them on it. Either way th main thing is the contract he wants, $10 million, which he is not worth. His asking price may actually be what determines Winnipegs trade value for him.
Aug. 16, 2019 at 3:30 p.m.
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It's not enough for Laine
Aug. 16, 2019 at 3:32 p.m.
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He said he's confident that he's playing somewhere. He never said somewhere else. Sounds like nothing but it's the entire meaning of the quote.


https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/patrik-laine-prepared-anything-future-winnipeg-uncertain/
Aug. 16, 2019 at 3:32 p.m.
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It's not enough for Laine


Thats more then a enough for Laine lol
Aug. 16, 2019 at 3:33 p.m.
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Yeah I can read, Youppi.

"Laine told Sportsnet that he’s confident he’ll be playing "somewhere" next season."
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Aug. 16, 2019 at 3:51 p.m.
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MB said if he can improve his team his going do it


Then make the condition apply to the 2021 second.
Aug. 16, 2019 at 3:59 p.m.
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I mean he didn’t say he’s confident he’s playing somewhere else next season but nice try
Aug. 16, 2019 at 4:16 p.m.
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If you’re giving him 4 years just offer sheet him. Hell 100% sign and the jets 100% won’t match
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Aug. 16, 2019 at 5:29 p.m.
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Joins Mikko in Colorado lol.
Aug. 16, 2019 at 7:39 p.m.
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Quoting: MakingHistory
Thats more then a enough for Laine lol


No it isn't? That's pure trash. Needs to be quality for quality. Not quantity for quality. And besides Chevy already said that Patrick Laine to Montreal isn't happening unless Max Domi is in the mix.
Aug. 19, 2019 at 9:06 a.m.
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Thats more then a enough for Laine lol


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No it isn't? That's pure trash. Needs to be quality for quality. Not quantity for quality. And besides Chevy already said that Patrick Laine to Montreal isn't happening unless Max Domi is in the mix.



There's like maybe 10 players in the league who can legitimately hit 40 goals in a single season. This one is 21 years old and can be acquired for *looks at proposal again* decent prospect, 2nd line veteran and a handful of maybes? Try again
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Aug. 19, 2019 at 9:41 a.m.
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There's like maybe 10 players in the league who can legitimately hit 40 goals in a single season.


This is highly inaccurate. Lots of guys are a threat to score 40 if they get into 82 games.
Aug. 19, 2019 at 1:03 p.m.
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This is highly inaccurate. Lots of guys are a threat to score 40 if they get into 82 games.


A lot of players are a threat to score 40 goals? Maybe but very few actually do, and Laine has. He had a terrible season last year and still collected 30 grapes. A few maybe's is not enough for a player like Laine.
Aug. 19, 2019 at 1:28 p.m.
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There's like maybe 10 players in the league who can legitimately hit 40 goals in a single season. This one is 21 years old and can be acquired for *looks at proposal again* decent prospect, 2nd line veteran and a handful of maybes? Try again


Thirteen players got to 40 last year:

Ovechkin
Draisaitl
Tavares
Stamkos
P. Kane
McDavid
Point
Atkinson
DeBrincat
MacKinnon
Kucherov
Skinner
Guentzal

Several more would have if they had played 82 games:

Arvidsson (34 in 58 gp)
Pastrnak (38 in 66)
Matthews (37 in 68)
Pavelski (38 in 75)

That's 17 and we still haven't got to Laine. Here are some others that could legitimately hit 40:

Marchand (36, 34, 39 and 37 in the past 4 seasons)
Crosby (40+ twice in his career, 35 last year)
Tkachuk (34 as a 20/21-year-old)
Tarasenko (33, 33, 39, 40 and 37 in the past 5 seasons)
Seguin (33, 40, 26, 33, 37 and 37 in the past 6 seasons)
Forsberg (36 goal pace last year)
Hertl (37 goal pace last year)
Lee (scored 40 in 17-18)
Scheifele (scored 38 last year)
Karlsson (scored 43 in 17-18)
Malkin (scored 42 in 17-18, broken 40 3x in his career)
Hall (scored 39 in 17-18)

That's 12 more for 29. And it's not inconceivable for guys like Pacioretty, Kessel and Benn to hit the 40 mark either - all have come close in the past. And I've probably missed a few, too. What about young players who could hit the mark for the first time? Names like Pettersson, Dubois, B. Tkachuk, A. Svechnikov, Connor, Rantanen and Larkin come to mind. That's like 40 guys with a shot at scoring 40 next year. It's not really that rare.
Aug. 19, 2019 at 1:36 p.m.
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A lot of players are a threat to score 40 goals? Maybe but very few actually do, and Laine has. He had a terrible season last year and still collected 30 grapes. A few maybe's is not enough for a player like Laine.


See my post above.

40 goals in a single season has been done 123 times in the past 20 years - and that's not counting the 6 guys that were on pace for 40+ in the lockout shortened 12-13 season. And of course no hockey was played at all in the 05-06 season.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?reportType=season&seasonFrom=19992000&seasonTo=20182019&gameType=2&filter=goals,gte,40&sort=goals
Aug. 19, 2019 at 2:01 p.m.
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Thirteen players got to 40 last year:

Ovechkin
Draisaitl
Tavares
Stamkos
P. Kane
McDavid
Point
Atkinson
DeBrincat
MacKinnon
Kucherov
Skinner
Guentzal

Several more would have if they had played 82 games:

Arvidsson (34 in 58 gp)
Pastrnak (38 in 66)
Matthews (37 in 68)
Pavelski (38 in 75)

That's 17 and we still haven't got to Laine. Here are some others that could legitimately hit 40:

Marchand (36, 34, 39 and 37 in the past 4 seasons)
Crosby (40+ twice in his career, 35 last year)
Tkachuk (34 as a 20/21-year-old)
Tarasenko (33, 33, 39, 40 and 37 in the past 5 seasons)
Seguin (33, 40, 26, 33, 37 and 37 in the past 6 seasons)
Forsberg (36 goal pace last year)
Hertl (37 goal pace last year)
Lee (scored 40 in 17-18)
Scheifele (scored 38 last year)
Karlsson (scored 43 in 17-18)
Malkin (scored 42 in 17-18, broken 40 3x in his career)
Hall (scored 39 in 17-18)

That's 12 more for 29. And it's not inconceivable for guys like Pacioretty, Kessel and Benn to hit the 40 mark either - all have come close in the past. And I've probably missed a few, too. What about young players who could hit the mark for the first time? Names like Pettersson, Dubois, B. Tkachuk, A. Svechnikov, Connor, Rantanen and Larkin come to mind. That's like 40 guys with a shot at scoring 40 next year. It's not really that rare.


Alright so there's a few things to clarify here.

13 players scored 40+ goals last year. 8 the year before (including Laine) and only 3 players the year before that.

So as a three year average (only going as far back as his career) of 8 players per season who actually accomplish scoring 40+ goals.

If we're going to look at it based on pace as opposed to grand totals like your argued, Laine would have 2 40+ goal pace seasons in his 3 year NHL career (seems elite no?). Laine has scored at a pace of 40-44 goals per season his first 2 years and had an abysmal season where he *only* put up 30. Under the right circumstances (no injuries and career shooting % seasons) anyone you mentioned above could crack 40. Difference between him and most of those players listed is that he is expected to do it next season and every season thereafter because he usually does.
Aug. 19, 2019 at 2:03 p.m.
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Alright so there's a few things to clarify here.

13 players scored 40+ goals last year. 8 the year before (including Laine) and only 3 players the year before that.

So as a three year average (only going as far back as his career) of 8 players per season who actually accomplish scoring 40+ goals.

If we're going to look at it based on pace as opposed to grand totals like your argued, Laine would have 2 40+ goal pace seasons in his 3 year NHL career (seems elite no?). Laine has scored at a pace of 40-44 goals per season his first 2 years and had an abysmal season where he *only* put up 30. Under the right circumstances (no injuries and career shooting % seasons) anyone you mentioned above could crack 40. Difference between him and most of those players listed is that he is expected to do it next season and every season thereafter because he usually does.


This is very different than saying "There's like maybe 10 players in the league who can legitimately hit 40 goals in a single season." I guess that's your way of admitting your original statement was incorrect...
Aug. 19, 2019 at 2:07 p.m.
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This is very different than saying "There's like maybe 10 players in the league who can legitimately hit 40 goals in a single season." I guess that's your way of admitting your original statement was incorrect...


Here is my statement. Laine is good at scoring goals. The trade above is not enough to acquire him. You're the one who went down the rabbit hole. Next time I post I'll be sure to include stats for 29 other players just for your benefit
Aug. 19, 2019 at 2:11 p.m.
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Here is my statement. Laine is good at scoring goals. The trade above is not enough to acquire him. You're the one who went down the rabbit hole. Next time I post I'll be sure to include stats for 29 other players just for your benefit


Well now, admitting you were wrong wasn't that difficult, was it? cheers
Aug. 19, 2019 at 2:21 p.m.
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Well now, admitting you were wrong wasn't that difficult, was it? cheers


He's not wrong, the trade isn't good value for a player of Laines caliber.

Devaluing Laine because you're claiming scoring 40 goals in a season "is not really that rare" is absurd.
 
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