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Created by: mmc57
Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 10, 2019
Published: Aug. 18, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
BUF
  1. Russell, Kris ($1,000,000 retained)
  2. 2020 1st round pick (EDM)
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Rights to J.Puljujarvi
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$80,705,332$0$2,490,000$794,668
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 6
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 7
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$2,835,000$2,835,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$808,333$808,333 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 1
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$2,150,000$2,150,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
C
UFA - 1
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$1,950,000$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
C
RFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,750,000$2M)
G
NTC
UFA - 1
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$720,000$720,000 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Aug. 18, 2019 at 6:38 p.m.
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Russell? We don't need a defenseman back and you trade us Russell? No way
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Aug. 18, 2019 at 6:40 p.m.
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You're getting a non-lottery protected 1st
Aug. 18, 2019 at 7:01 p.m.
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Holland makes this trade and every radio DJ within earshot of Edmonton plays "Another One Bites the Dust" daily until he's gone, too.
Aug. 18, 2019 at 7:46 p.m.
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Edmonton never does this. Ristolainen is very terrible. Russell is probably a better Dman than Risto. Edmonton wont trade any picks unless its a 4th or below.
Aug. 18, 2019 at 8:07 p.m.
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Who adds what?
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Quoting: wojme
Russell? We don't need a defenseman back and you trade us Russell? No way


Edmonton and Buffalo seem to lead the league this summer in defensemen they believe are good enough to play on any team in the NHL, at about nine apiece, but neither will take any from the other team, outside of the best three or four. I wonder if that means anything.

Russell is better defensively than Ristolainen, when healthy, but that's so rare it doesn't matter. You're being offered a cap dump/LTIR guy/buried salary at a discount, a 1st, and a recent top-five bust. Like it or don't, on value, but don't panic like Russell's a key piece of value, here.
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Aug. 18, 2019 at 8:14 p.m.
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Quoting: wojme
Russell? We don't need a defenseman back and you trade us Russell? No way


Buffalo gets a favourable deal and you complain? What the heck is wrong with you?
Aug. 18, 2019 at 8:28 p.m.
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Quoting: BlueSeeker
Buffalo gets a favourable deal and you complain? What the heck is wrong with you?


Favorable? Nah
Aug. 18, 2019 at 8:31 p.m.
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Quoting: wojme
Favorable? Nah


An unprotected first from a non playoff team for Risto? No one in their right mind would do that and yet here you are going "nah". What do you want? 2 unprotected first rounders?
Aug. 20, 2019 at 6:44 p.m.
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Let's use a little science, go to https://public.tableau.com/profile/christopher.turtoro#!/vizhome/2-yearA3ZPlayerComps/ComparisonDashboard and compare Russell and Scandella (the player Russell would need to replace).
Just to muddy the water also go to https://evolving-hockey.com/
one and one, the first seems to favor Scandella the second Russell.
So the Sabres trade RHD for LHD a first and a prospect.
While Russell may not be an ideal roster player, the first and Puljujarvi are pretty good pieces.

Quoting: SJ_Sharkie
Edmonton never does this. Ristolainen is very terrible. Russell is probably a better Dman than Risto. Edmonton wont trade any picks unless its a 4th or below.

Remember Ristolainen is young, was misused, over used and never had true on ice leadership. I would like to see him remain a Sabre and watch him grow.
Quoting: Eli
Edmonton and Buffalo seem to lead the league this summer in defensemen they believe are good enough to play on any team in the NHL, at about nine apiece, but neither will take any from the other team, outside of the best three or four. I wonder if that means anything.
Russell is better defensively than Ristolainen, when healthy, but that's so rare it doesn't matter. You're being offered a cap dump/LTIR guy/buried salary at a discount, a 1st, and a recent top-five bust. Like it or don't, on value, but don't panic like Russell's a key piece of value, here.

LOL, again great analysis.
Quoting: BlueSeeker
Buffalo gets a favourable deal and you complain? What the heck is wrong with you?

I guess, no one understands taking on cap to balance the trade.
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An unprotected first from a non playoff team for Risto? No one in their right mind would do that and yet here you are going "nah". What do you want? 2 unprotected first rounders?

Well maybe McDavid and 2 first round picks would be fair.
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Aug. 20, 2019 at 7:32 p.m.
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Who adds what?
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Well maybe McDavid and 2 first round picks would be fair.


Come on, man. It's not like they asked for Girgensons! smile
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Aug. 20, 2019 at 7:39 p.m.
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Quoting: Eli
Come on, man. It's not like they asked for Girgensons! smile


Well Girgensons', Corsi 48.28 almost as high as McDavid's 49.91, but Girgensons only had 15% OZS v McDavid's 59% OZS, IMO Edmonton would need to add.
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Aug. 20, 2019 at 7:46 p.m.
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Who adds what?
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Well Girgensons', Corsi 48.28 almost as high as McDavid's 49.91, but Girgensons only had 15% OZS v McDavid's 59% OZS, IMO Edmonton would need to add.


Your logic is undeniable.
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Aug. 20, 2019 at 8:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Eli
Your logic is undeniable.


Ah! the irrefutable power of advanced stats.
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