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Tuch

Created by: Nikolay_Zherdev
Initial Creation Date: Aug 19, 2019
Published: Aug 19, 2019 at 5:57 pm
Team: 2019-20 New York Rangers
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Lemieux, Brendan3$1,350,000
Deangelo, Anthony3$3,450,000
Trades
NYR
  1. Tuch, Alex
  2. Reaves, Ryan ($775,000 retained)
  3. Subban, Malcolm
  4. Holden, Nick
VGK
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel
  2. Hájek, Libor
  3. Georgiev, Alexandar
  4. Namestnikov, Vladislav
  5. 2020 4th round pick (NYR)
  6. 2020 6th round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Tolvanen, Eeli
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (MIN)
NSH
  1. Kreider, Chris ($1,000,000 retained)
NYR
  1. 2020 6th round pick (FLA)
  2. 2020 7th round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Holden, Nick
Buyouts
  • Dan Girardi: $3,611,111
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: $1,483,333
  • Ryan Spooner: $300,000
  • Brad Richards: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Chris Kreider: $1,000,000 (21.62%)
  • Vladislav Namestnikov: $750,000 (19%)
Buried
  • Matt Beleskey: $825,000 ($1,900,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
NYR
NYR
DAL
MIN
NYR
FLA
NYR
NSH
VAN
COL
2021
NYR
NYR
NYR
BUF
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
2022
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$82,058,132$0$8,400,000-$558,132
Left WingCenterRight Wing
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 7
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
VGK
Tuch, Alex
$4,750,000
RW
UFA - 7
NSH
Tolvanen, Eeli
$894,166
LW
RFA - 2
NYR
Strome, Ryan
$3,100,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
NYR
Kakko, Kaapo
$925,000
RW
RFA - 3
NYR
Chytil, Filip
$894,166
LW, C
RFA - 2
NYR
Howden, Brett
$863,333
C
RFA - 2
NYR
Kravtsov, Vitali
$925,000
RW
RFA - 3
NYR
Lemieux, Brendan
$1,350,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
NYR
Andersson, Lias
$894,166
C, LW
RFA - 2
NYR
Fast, Jesper
$1,850,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NYR
Skjei, Brady
$5,250,000
LD
UFA - 5
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
$8,000,000
RD
UFA - 7
NYR
Lundqvist, Henrik
$8,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 2
NYR
Rykov, Yegor
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
NYR
Deangelo, Anthony
$3,450,000
RD
RFA - 1
VGK
Subban, Malcolm
$850,000
G
RFA - 1
NYR
Staal, Marc
$5,700,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
NYR
Fox, Adam
$925,000
RD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
VGK
Reaves, Ryan
$2,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
NYR
Nieves, Cristoval
$700,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
NYR
Smith, Brendan
$4,350,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2

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Aug 19, 2019 at 6:00
#1
bhavikp27
Joined: Jun 2016
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Fun team or for real?

Because VGK won't move Tuch and COL doesn't need another D.
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Aug 19, 2019 at 6:09
#2
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Fun team or for real?

Because VGK won't move Tuch and COL doesn't need another D.


especially one that they were doing cartwheels that they were able to get rid of (which was a trade to the rangers in the first place)
Aug 19, 2019 at 6:10
#3
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 139
Likes: 35
I've got a feeling that Georgie is gonna cause a conundrum for us in net. He's got the work ethic and the ability (and Benoit Allaire) to be a star, regardless of who else is in the pipeline. Hot take, I know.

I know Tuch is good, but what's the point in taking him over Buch right now? Bigger cap hit for longer time. Buch will finally get to play in a deeper lineup and it's possible we may see his numbers look similar to those of Tuch. If he does perform better and earns more in 2 years, how much more will that be? Maybe 2m tops? That's not too much of an issue with the amount of space we'll have then. To lose Hajek over it makes no sense for what we're trying to do to take one marginally better player and 3 cap dumps for prospects with upside and stuff on top of that.
Aug 19, 2019 at 6:29
#4
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 1,448
Likes: 498
Vegas isnt trading Tuch for that package
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Aug 19, 2019 at 6:38
#5
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 106
Likes: 34
Quoting: shmoeman
Vegas isnt trading Tuch


Fixed it
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Aug 19, 2019 at 7:55
#6
Who adds what?
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 10,046
Likes: 1,747
Edited Aug 19, 2019 at 8:02
This offer looks worse than it should, because you're overthinking it and adding stuff that's unnecessary and could be even counterproductive.

Georgiev for M. Subban is kind of pointless. They are close enough in age and stats that each team would rather keep the guy that knows his teammates and how they play. Yes, Georgiev is two years younger with about as many wins, but who cares. A two year age difference is not enough to overcome Vegas' doubts about why you want to get rid of Georgiev and see this part as a positive. Drop that part.

Namestnikov for Reaves actually removes half the backchecking and 90% of the toughness from Vegas' third line, to get a guy who got two more goals and eight more assists last year, at a million dollars higher cap hit. I don't think they do that swap as a one for one, let alone call it an incentive to move Tuch.

An NHL-ready, recent 2nd round pick defenseman in Hajek plus a 24 year old forward who got 20g 20a last year for a 23 year old forward who got 20g30a last year? Not bad, but not quite there.

Holden isn't holding much value right now, so yeah, you're offering Hajek, Buchnevich, 4th and 6th for Tuch. Drop the late picks, and put a 2nd on the table, and they might start to sit down and think about it? But you have to remember: Vegas agreed not to take Eric Staal, or some really good defensemen, in the expansion draft, to get Tuch and a pick, instead. They do like the kid, a bit, as they should. He skates really quickly. He scores goals. He checks a bit. He improves a lot, every year he plays, so far.

Basically, younger players tend to improve at a faster rate than older ones. Since Tuch is a year younger with ten more points last year than Buchnevich, he probably projects to stay better than him, for the forseeable future. Adding a decent defenseman prospect is nice, but if that's the only reason to make the trade, it's not enough.
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