Moore is not a cap dump. Would not have to pay a penalty to move him. You’d actually have to give us something to get him.

yeah, except the first line, you only got wingers on L2 and L4 right if you were trying to make a lineup
Moore is injured & EDM won't want him.
Also, it's not both Carlo & McAvoy to bridge deals, it's one or other (likely McAvoy) so in this case, Carlo will probably make $4M; McAvoy can get more than that but some would continue to disagree until they see Bruins' release (cough @Bcarlo25 cough)

yeah like a 5th/6th

it is amazing how incorrect you can be in one post. Edmonton want a reasonably priced, cost controlled D with term in a market that struggles beyond belief to get veterans at reasonable deals? never. What's wrong with Kuraly on the LW. I think that's a reasonable option?

Why can't both d men get bridged? Is there some rule against bridge contracts I didn't know about?
Why can't you produce a single example of a defensive d man that got paid as much as you think Carlo will get paid?
Why can't you produce a single example of a group 1 RFA that got paid as much as you think McAvoy will get paid?

It should be really easy right? You use emojis like it's so obvious. Man, if I was talking so definitively like you are about how McAvoy will never take less than 6 million, no matter what the term, I think I'd want to bring an example of some time that it happened, at least once. If I couldn't find one, I'd probably shut up.

Have never seen someone so ignorant and blatantly incorrect about so many things. You can’t provide a single example to support either of your claims but you continue to degrade others for not agreeing with your empty and incorrect claim. What are you 13?

alright, so there's obviously loads wrong with the lines and everything, but I get that wasn't the point of this ACGM. My question is how did Shen sneak in there? He's like 10th on the center depth chart.

Cheers man, Chara gets a bad rap because he's dummied guys, or because of the pacioretty incident, but he's awesome. I'm glad others appreciate it.

Hjarmalsson did get 5M this year, but I realize he's a more proven, cup winning player. 4M for Carlo is accurate, 5 would be an overpay. Say 4.5 Max

ya....as a 32 year old with 12 years in the league, 3 cup rings, and twice as many points per game over his career as carlo on a super team friendly term...what? that isn't a comparable.

bringing up dollars for carlo without accounting for term is meaningless. 4 million might be awesome for the bruins, or, it could be terrible for the bruins. 2.5 could be horrible for carlo, or it could be about fair. All depends on term, everything with a negotiation out of an entry deal is all about term.

this is making you look reallyyy bad

buddy everyone here thinks you're a clown. just provide your examples. should be so so so super easy.

Learn what gets you paid in this league.

At this point, you guys just can't take anything I say lol, it's starting to become a personal thing. I kindly tried to explain you some things but you don't seem to understand.

Market changes, Carlo will set his own price. There aren't any +70% comparable to him. McAvoy is waiting for/along Provorov & Werenski depending on their deals. I know he's a freakin group 10.2c and AAV depends on how many years but again, the way he plays, how much and how well, it's definitely worth $6M. You don't need to prove it with stats or whatever, it's pure logic.

(veryone)

more like 2-3 people who don't seem to understand what I'm saying

okay, so help me out here. Do you think there are going to be zero comparables used for Carlo, and he will set his own market as a one of a kind player? huh.
Do you understand the concept of a bridge?
Do you get how the bridge drives the contract value down in exchange for an earlier crack at a new contract?
were your parents siblings?

nobody said EDM wanted a D.

They got Klefbom-Larsson. Then Nurse. Russell can play top4 RD or any side on 3rd pair. They have Benning as well. Evan Bouchard could make the team. Joel Persson is likely the 6th/7th D. Ethan Bear & Caleb Jones are also ready. Manning is buried. Logan Day, William Lagesson & Dmitry Samorukov are good options in BAK with great potential. They will probably go with what they have and then maybe, if it doesn't work, make a move.

everyone understands what you're saying. You're saying that concepts that have existed in the NHL for decades will be forgot because, well, no reason, because you said so.

Everyone that you've engaged with on this topic thinks your dumb. Provide contract examples that back your point, or I'm done here. You've made it sound like you could. Let's see them. It's so obvious right? So just grab one for me. I'm not responding until you do, or just admit that you were laughably wrong.

He will. You don't have any comparable.

I don't even know what contract you would offer him since you're just concentrated on telling me I'm wrong (while I'm not)

Go ahead.

4m for 5+ years is what I meant, not 4M on anything less.
Bridge deal of 2.5-3.5M for 2-3 years

you've heard many times. 7x4.75 is where i'm at with carlo, but on a 2 year bridge probably 2.75. for mcavoy 8x9, 3x5, 2x3.5, 1x2.75. very simple. very rational. very logical. very based in past history. It will be the last you here until we see those examples because we're all so dumb and you're all so smart so of course there would be ample evidence to prove it. Let's hear it, or just go away.

your gap is too big you go from $9M to $3M....

because term matters you toddler.

Think about term. Then think about what the player is giving up with the term. Then think about what the team is giving up with the term.

Damnit. You're trolling me. No one could actually be this dumb, except for me apparently, because I just now realized you're trolling me and @Jiannuccilli

well done, you got me hook line and sinker for a bit.

I'm not. I'm serious.

There's still not that much of gap between bridge and long-term deals.

*eating popcorn*

This has been a lot of fun. I look forward to the next show

bcarlo’s gap isnt even that big, he went from 9 mil for 8 yrs to 5 mil for 3 yrs. Thats a 5 yr difference in term and a 4 mil difference in aav. bcarlo is on the money about how term dictates aav. It doesnt matter if mcavoy is the best d man in the world, his aav is gonna be based on his term. And whatever the market value is for that term is what he will get.

It’s not that we aren’t taking what you say. We’re asking you to provide logical reasoning based on past evidence and occurrences. Which you keep refusing to do...because there is nothing in history that supports what you’re saying and you’re not man enough to admit that you’re wrong.

It’s not pure logic. The logic is the evidence that me and mostly @bcarlo25 have presented you. Logic is not “this will happen this way because I said so.”

looking forwards to see " this " happen so you guys will finally understand I was right
I know what I am saying kids