Convincing Hall to Stay

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Created by: bbell080

Team: 2019-20 New Jersey Devils

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 20, 2019

Published: Aug. 20, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

This is obviously an insane idea, and there are reasons on both sides to say no, but this move makes a lot of sense for both teams when you dig into it. Chicago needs to reboot, and NJD needs to contend now, especially with Hughes cheap for only three years.

Will this happen? No, not in a million years, but should it? No, probably not. But isn't this site about having fun ideas and seeing how they might work? Yes, yes it is.

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Zacha, Pavel		1	$1,250,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Marleau, Patrick		1	$1,000,000
Brassard, Derick		1	$2,000,000

Trades

NJD

Kane, Patrick

Additional Details:

CHI needs to retool at the very least, and probably rebuild. Hard to do, with both Kane and Toews on the books for $10.5M/year for the next four years. NJD needs to make a splash to show Hall, and to a certain extent Hughes, that they are here to compete now and for the next few years. To do it by trading Hischier, Wood, Smith, and Boqvist plus two firsts. The Hawks jumpstart their rebuild or retool with three solid young forwards (all three with top-six potential) and a potential top-2 D, plus two late first-round picks.

CHI

Boqvist, Jesper
Hischier, Nico
Smith, Ty
Wood, Miles
2020 1st round pick (NJD)
2021 1st round pick (NJD)

NJD

DeMelo, Dylan

Additional Details:

Sens take on the greater salary, which lets NJD make the insane and unlikely move I've already suggested, and the Sens can flip Vatanen at the deadline, likely for a 1st

OTT

Vatanen, Sami
2021 3rd round pick (NJD)

Buyouts

Mike Cammalleri: $1,666,667

Recapture Fees

Ilya Kovalchuk: $250,000

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$60,402,764	$0	$3,025,000	$21,097,236

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hall, Taylor $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW UFA - 1	Hughes, Jack $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) C UFA - 3	Kane, Patrick $2,625,000$2,625,000 RW NMC UFA - 4
Gusev, Nikita $4,500,000$4,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Zajac, Travis $2,875,000$2,875,000 C NTC UFA - 2	Palmieri, Kyle $2,325,000$2,325,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Marleau, Patrick $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Brassard, Derick $2,000,000$2,000,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Simmonds, Wayne $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Bratt, Jesper $749,167$749,167 ($42,500$42K) RW, LW UFA - 1	Zacha, Pavel $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, LW UFA - 3	Coleman, Blake $1,800,000$1,800,000 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Butcher, Will $2,822,764$2,822,764 LD UFA - 3	Subban, P.K. $9,000,000$9,000,000 RD UFA - 3	Schneider, Cory $6,000,000$6,000,000 G NTC UFA - 3
Greene, Andy $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 1	Severson, Damon $4,166,666$4,166,666 RD UFA - 4	Blackwood, Mackenzie $697,500$697,500 ($132,500$132K) G UFA - 1
Mueller, Mirco $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD UFA - 1	DeMelo, Dylan $900,000$900,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Rooney, Kevin $700,000$700,000 C UFA - 1
Carrick, Connor $1,500,000$1,500,000 RD UFA - 2
Hayden, John $750,000$750,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Hall, T.		Hughes, J.		Kane, P.
	Butcher, W.		Subban, P.

Power Play 2
Gusev, N.		Zajac, T.		Palmieri, K.
	Marleau, P.		Severson, D.

Penalty Kill 1
	Zacha, P.	Simmonds, W.
	Greene, A.	Severson, D.

Penalty Kill 2
	Coleman, B.	Bratt, J.
	Mueller, M.	DeMelo, D.

Aug. 20, 2019 at 3:27 p.m.

Csick123

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If Stan says no, he should quit

Aug. 20, 2019 at 3:27 p.m.

AndrewLadd

Bo Horvat enjoyer

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As good as Kane is I think Chicago accepts

Aug. 20, 2019 at 3:29 p.m.

csick

KFTW

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Quoting: klondikebar

As good as Kane is I think Chicago accepts

Obvs lol. A #1C, their top 2 prospects, a middle 6 winger and 2 1sts rounders

Aug. 20, 2019 at 3:31 p.m.

Big_Euge

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Hope Stan uses lube. Christ that is a return if I've ever seen one.

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Aug. 20, 2019 at 3:31 p.m.

Csick123

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@Stan_Bowman u getting fired today or not

Aug. 20, 2019 at 3:32 p.m.

xexus101

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I doubt Chicago would even entertain that, from the moves they're making, it seems like they'll keep their main core and keep trying to build around and go for it anyways - Especially with Kane having an unbelievable season in his 30s and no sign of regression. Miles Wood looks meh, Ty Smith and Jesper Boqvist have yet to prove they're another more than a B level prospect. Even Hischier hasn't broken out yet as a #1 Center.
And Ottawa management is too foolish to take on poor contracts for picks!

But you're right, this is all for fun. And when it comes to fun, seeing Kane and Hall play on the same line is very much so.

Quick sidenote - BRUTAL Center Depth

Aug. 20, 2019 at 3:33 p.m.

cperk92

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I just can't see the Devils doing this. The Blackhawks absolutely accept.

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Aug. 20, 2019 at 3:34 p.m.

Melnyk_0ut

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I wish Ottawa got this return for Erik Karlsson

Aug. 20, 2019 at 3:38 p.m.

Nikolay_Zherdev

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I like this. Issues- Marleau doesn’t sign for 1 mil. Devils would need to sign... hall which will be 11 mil- Simmonds (if they want him), bratt, demelo, Zacha, mueller, and Blackwood... they won’t have so much cap

Aug. 20, 2019 at 4:00 p.m.

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grok

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on the one hand, CHI should say yes. this is a complete reset on their roster and sets them up for a decade.

on the other hand, if i'm CHI and i'm dealing kane, i really want to get off the seabrook contract as part of the deal. CHI will be hamstrung by that contract for another half a decade and a kane trade is the best way to get it off the books.

Aug. 20, 2019 at 4:03 p.m.

#11

palhal

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Convincing Hall to stay? If it's just $$$$, the Devils are one of few teams that has cap next year.

Aug. 26, 2019 at 2:05 p.m.

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drew1871

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My freaking god this is so awful

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