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Laine

Created by: Kakko_to_New_York
Initial Creation Date: Aug 21, 2019
Published: Aug 21, 2019 at 8:19 pm
Team: 2019-20 New York Islanders
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Beauvillier, Anthony2$2,000,000
Laine, Patrik8$9,500,000
Trades
NYI
  1. 2021 6th round pick (PIT)
EDM
  1. Hickey, Thomas
NYI
  1. Laine, Patrik [RFA Rights]
WPG
  1. Eberle, Jordan
  2. Wilde, Bode
  3. Durandeau, Arnaud
  4. 2020 1st round pick (NYI)
  5. 2021 2nd round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. 2021 3rd round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Clutterbuck, Cal
Buyouts
  • Rick DiPietro: $0
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
2021
NYI
NYI
NJD
NYI
NYI
NYI
PIT
NYI
2022
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$69,314,958$0$937,500$12,185,042
Left WingCenterRight Wing
NYI
Lee, Anders
$7,000,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 7
NYI
Nelson, Brock
$6,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
Laine, Patrik
$9,500,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
NYI
Beauvillier, Anthony
$2,000,000
LW
RFA - 2
NYI
Barzal, Mathew
$863,333
C
RFA - 1
NYI
Bailey, Josh
$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
NYI
Dal Colle, Michael
$700,000
LW
RFA - 2
NYI
Brassard, Derick
$1,200,000
C
UFA - 1
NYI
Ho-Sang, Joshua
$874,125
RW, C
RFA - 1
NYI
Martin, Matt
$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
NYI
Cizikas, Casey
$3,350,000
C
UFA - 2
NYI
Komarov, Leo
$3,000,000
RW, LW, C
NTC
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NYI
Leddy, Nick
$5,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
NYI
Boychuk, Johnny
$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
NYI
Varlamov, Semyon
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 4
NYI
Toews, Devon
$700,000
LD
RFA - 1
NYI
Dobson, Noah
$894,167
RD
RFA - 3
NYI
Greiss, Thomas
$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
NYI
Pelech, Adam
$1,600,000
LD
RFA - 2
NYI
Pulock, Ryan
$2,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
NYI
Mayfield, Scott
$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
NYI
Kühnhackl, Tom
$850,000
RW
UFA - 1
NYI
Ladd, Andrew
$5,500,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 4

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Aug 21, 2019 at 8:35
#1
Joined: Aug 2016
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I really just can’t see the islanders getting laine without giving up Dobson. I know islanders fans have told me they wouldn’t do that 1for1 but I don’t see Winnipeg settling for anything else that’s reasonable.
Aug 21, 2019 at 8:57
#2
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 646
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Quoting: Jiannuccilli
I really just can’t see the islanders getting laine without giving up Dobson. I know islanders fans have told me they wouldn’t do that 1for1 but I don’t see Winnipeg settling for anything else that’s reasonable.


You don’t give up a prospect like Dobson for a one dimensional player like Laine. I know he’s a legit goal scorer, but that’s all he is. Dobson is a blue chip, can’t miss possible #1 defenseman who plays an excellent game on both sides of the puck. You especially don’t trade Dobson for a player like Laine when you can just OS him for just under the 4 1sts level and force WPG to make a tough decision.
Aug 21, 2019 at 9:05
#3
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 159
Likes: 51
Quoting: Hockeygoalie53
You don’t give up a prospect like Dobson for a one dimensional player like Laine. I know he’s a legit goal scorer, but that’s all he is. Dobson is a blue chip, can’t miss possible #1 defenseman who plays an excellent game on both sides of the puck. You especially don’t trade Dobson for a player like Laine when you can just OS him for just under the 4 1sts level and force WPG to make a tough decision.


Wahlstrom perhaps? As one dimensional as Laine might be, he is still a highly skilled goalscorer. If all it took is an offer sheet below the 4 1st's level then why haven't other teams done that for Marner or Tkachuk or Point?
Aug 21, 2019 at 9:15
#4
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 646
Likes: 129
Quoting: Kaifin
Wahlstrom perhaps? As one dimensional as Laine might be, he is still a highly skilled goalscorer. If all it took is an offer sheet below the 4 1st's level then why haven't other teams done that for Marner or Tkachuk or Point?


I’d have to seriously consider Wahlstrom in a trade for Laine, since Laine is what you hope Wahlstrom turns into. As for the OS, none of those other guys have shown a desire to sign an OS yet... all reports indicate Laine would be willing to, as it appears he wants out of WPG.
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Aug 21, 2019 at 9:18
#5
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 159
Likes: 51
Quoting: Hockeygoalie53
I’d have to seriously consider Wahlstrom in a trade for Laine, since Laine is what you hope Wahlstrom turns into. As for the OS, none of those other guys have shown a desire to sign an OS yet... all reports indicate Laine would be willing to, as it appears he wants out of WPG.


I see what you mean, it'd be a trade of potential versus (semi) established. I hadn't heard that he would be open to signing an offer sheet though... Very interesting
Aug 21, 2019 at 9:23
#6
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 646
Likes: 129
Quoting: Kaifin
I see what you mean, it'd be a trade of potential versus (semi) established. I hadn't heard that he would be open to signing an offer sheet though... Very interesting


Nothing has specifically stated he would be, at least not that I’ve seen anyway. I’m just saying, based on the reports that have come out over the past few days... of the RFAs left unsigned, he’s the one I see as most likely open to signing one.
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Aug 21, 2019 at 10:45
#7
wpg
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 388
Likes: 129
Quoting: Hockeygoalie53
Nothing has specifically stated he would be, at least not that I’ve seen anyway. I’m just saying, based on the reports that have come out over the past few days... of the RFAs left unsigned, he’s the one I see as most likely open to signing one.


no way trading laine for Wahlstrom and even dobson 1 on 1... if nyi wants him they have to add big time..... otherwise wpg will just keep him,

Quoting: Hockeygoalie53
I’d have to seriously consider Wahlstrom in a trade for Laine, since Laine is what you hope Wahlstrom turns into. As for the OS, none of those other guys have shown a desire to sign an OS yet... all reports indicate Laine would be willing to, as it appears he wants out of WPG.
Aug 21, 2019 at 10:46
#8
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 288
Likes: 53
Quoting: Hockeygoalie53
You don’t give up a prospect like Dobson for a one dimensional player like Laine. I know he’s a legit goal scorer, but that’s all he is. Dobson is a blue chip, can’t miss possible #1 defenseman who plays an excellent game on both sides of the puck. You especially don’t trade Dobson for a player like Laine when you can just OS him for just under the 4 1sts level and force WPG to make a tough decision.


chill, dobson is a solid prospect but if you are getting Laine straight up its a no brainer.
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Aug 22, 2019 at 9:33
#9
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 646
Likes: 129
Quoting: nfc
chill, dobson is a solid prospect but if you are getting Laine straight up its a no brainer.


It's a no brainer to say NO, absolutely. Besides, it wouldn't be a 1 for 1, the original comment that spawned the discussion was that a package for Laine STARTS with Dobson. And Dobson is more than a SOLID prospect, he's the kind of prospect you build a team around. His ceiling is a #1 Defenseman who plays both sides of the puck incredibly well, not to mention he can play PP and PK (I think). He's Pulock, probably a little better.... Would you trade Pulock straight up for Laine? I sure as hell wouldn't... not when the ONLY thing Laine brings is goals... nothing else. We can get someone who does that for much cheaper than giving up Dobson.
Aug 22, 2019 at 9:35
#10
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 646
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Quoting: HockeyFan989
no way trading laine for Wahlstrom and even dobson 1 on 1... if nyi wants him they have to add big time..... otherwise wpg will just keep him,


It wouldn't be 1 for 1, the conversation was about a package built around Dobson initially and then switched into one built around Wahlstrom. I realize pieces would need to be added, but my argument was I'm not trading Dobson in a package for Laine, a package built around Wahlstrom I can get behind, depending on the other pieces.
 
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