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Rumor says Provy wants 10M per year

Created by: BurgerBoss
Initial Creation Date: Aug 22, 2019
Published: Aug 22 at 8:14 am
Team: 2019-20 Philadelphia Flyers
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https://twitter.com/BrianHedger/status/1164177398902005761

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Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Provorov, Ivan8$10,000,000
Konecny, Travis5$4,750,000
Buyouts
  • Andrew MacDonald: $1,166,667
  • David Schlemko: $900,000
  • Ilya Bryzgalov: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Radko Gudas: $1,005,000 (30%)
Buried
  • Robert Hägg: $75,000 ($1,150,000)
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PHI
NSH
PHI
PHI
PHI
MTL
2021
PHI
PHI
PHI
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PHI
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2022
PHI
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$81,057,579$0$2,995,000$442,421
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PHI
Giroux, Claude
$8,275,000
LW, C, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
PHI
Hayes, Kevin
$7,142,857
C
NMC
UFA - 7
PHI
Voracek, Jakub
$8,250,000
RW
UFA - 5
PHI
van Riemsdyk, James
$7,000,000
LW
UFA - 4
PHI
Couturier, Sean
$4,333,333
C
UFA - 3
PHI
Pitlick, Tyler
$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
PHI
Raffl, Michael
$1,600,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
PHI
Laughton, Scott
$2,300,000
C
UFA - 2
PHI
Gabriel, Kurtis
$700,000
RW
UFA - 1
PHI
Lindblom, Oskar
$925,000
LW
RFA - 1
PHI
Patrick, Nolan
$925,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
PHI
Konecny, Travis
$4,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PHI
Provorov, Ivan
$10,000,000
LD
UFA - 6
PHI
Sanheim, Travis
$3,250,000
RD
RFA - 2
PHI
Elliott, Brian
$2,000,000
G
UFA - 1
PHI
Gostisbehere, Shayne
$4,500,000
LD
UFA - 4
PHI
Niskanen, Matt
$5,750,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
PHI
Hart, Carter
$730,833
G
RFA - 2
PHI
Braun, Justin
$3,800,000
RD
UFA - 1
PHI
Myers, Philippe
$678,889
RD
RFA - 1

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Aug 22 at 10:27
#26
ChiHawks34
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Then he should get traded to a team stupid enough to give him anywhere close to that.
Aug 22 at 11:21
#27
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Just going to play devils advocate here, why is it everyone agrees that paying a player into his 30's is bad and paying a young player in his statistical prime is bad..............sooooo when exactly are you suppose to pay a player what he's worth???

i get it, RFA's are our personal property and we can do with them whatever we want...............(sarcasm in case Im not obvious enough) but take off the rosy glasses for a sec and remember your simply paying the UFA cost for the RFA player now during his prime years instead of when they are older and they'll more than likely not be able to live up to that contract.

We've got so used to the idea that RFA's must "earn" their big pay day but in truth we resent them for that. By the time they become UFA's they want big payouts that take them way into their non productive years and because its free market, teams need to overpay on top of that.

Under the previous way of thinking, Provy will get his ELC at 925K, followed by a 5-8 year at 5.5M, than hits free agency at approx 27-30 so then gets his big payout of 10M+ for 5-7 years.

Under the way the new NHL, players are pushing for the ELC 925K followed by the big payout at 8 years at 10M followed by the readjusted payout of 3-5 year stints at 5-10M based on how well the player did entering into free agency.

I know as fans this sucks but this is WWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better for the players and more in line with when they are paid for what they actually give you on the ice. That's what we want at the end of the day. Players getting what they deserve, whether that's less when they're older or more when they're younger.
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Aug 22 at 11:51
#28
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If he wants that ( really doubt it) he’s gonna sit the whole year
Aug 22 at 1:16
#29
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
He won't. No one is paying Provorov that much after his last year. My guess is something like 8 x 5.


This would already be a big overpay lol
Aug 22 at 1:47
#30
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Burgers and Hockey
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Quoting: Zwui21
This would already be a big overpay lol


Probably.
Aug 22 at 1:58
#31
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Quoting: wojme
Statically he's worth around 5.4 on a 5 year deal.


According to the EW estimates Provorov is in line to get a $6.6M x 6 year deal. He's worth about $7M on an 8-year contract.
Aug 22 at 1:59
#32
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Quoting: yanp007
And the same rumor Werenski 6M on a bridge deal... for me Werenski > Provorov


EW has Werenski worth about $500k more than Provorov on a 3-year deal, which places Provorov in the $5.5M range.
Aug 22 at 2:02
#33
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Quoting: clark
Think Trouba has opened the floodgate on RFA Dmen getting overpaid. Trouba at 8m makes him the 5th highest paid Dman in the league. Now I know he's young and has growth potential but geez seems like an overpay to me. So imagine what McAvoy and Pronovov are thinking.
Yep, I image in he wants 10m. What's more realistic 4.5 X 2? 6.5m X 6? Who knows.


EW had Trouba estimated at $7.2M on a 5-year deal, so $8M x 7 isn't much of an overpay. They have Provorov at $6.6M x 6, so $10M isn't even in the same ballpark.
Aug 22 at 2:05
#34
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
True. Something like Provy at $5,5M for 3 years and Konecny at $4,25M for 3 years seem pretty legit from my point of view.


Yep, those numbers are about right.
 
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