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Patrick Kane during Window to Win

Created by: SAR
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 22, 2019
Published: Aug. 22, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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According to Dave Bolland Marner is as good as Jonathan Toews when he was in his prime. Based on this logic this is a fair trade.
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$3,000,000
1$700,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Boqvist, Adam
  2. Kane, Patrick ($1,000,000 retained)
2.
TOR
  1. Toffoli, Tyler ($2,000,000 retained)
LAK
  1. Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
  2. 2020 4th round pick (VGK)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$73,203,866$0$850,000$8,296,134
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$11,634,000$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 5
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$1,625,000$1,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$2,600,000$2,600,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 4
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 3
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$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
$700,000$700,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1

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Aug. 22, 2019 at 4:04 p.m.
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Quality joke
Aug. 22, 2019 at 4:05 p.m.
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"Any time you can get 2 Toews you have to do it" - Dave Bolland
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Aug. 22, 2019 at 4:07 p.m.
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lol maybe the hawks would have to give up a 3rd or 2nd round pick. But quite honestly Kane is still better And won’t regress for a while probably. The difference between Marner and Kane is not one of the best d prospects in the league.
Aug. 22, 2019 at 4:08 p.m.
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So... in your opinion Marner (who doesn't have a contract yet) is worth more than Kane AND Boqvist, and in order to make the trade 'fair', the Blackhawks must also take Ceci's contract and retain 1 mil on Kane's contract?
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Aug. 22, 2019 at 4:08 p.m.
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So... in your opinion Marner (who doesn't have a contract yet) is worth more than Kane AND Boqvist, and in order to make the trade 'fair', the Blackhawks must also take Ceci's contract and retain 1 mil on Kane's contract?


I lolled
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Aug. 22, 2019 at 4:09 p.m.
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Kane is better now and probably better/equal for the next three years after that. No way we take Cap Dump Cody Ceci and give up our best prospect.
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Aug. 22, 2019 at 4:17 p.m.
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#DelusionalLeafsFan
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Aug. 22, 2019 at 4:20 p.m.
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LMAO
Aug. 22, 2019 at 4:52 p.m.
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as some of you may already be aware, I tend to be a bit of a "troll" on here sometimes. However, in spite of that, I am being completely honest and serious when I say the following statement. Most players are better than toews in his prime. He is probably one of the most over rated players of all time. Toews had no business being in the nhls top 100 players of all time. And he certainly should not have been any where near that NHL legends special with Lemieux, Gretzky, Orr, and Crosby.
Aug. 22, 2019 at 4:52 p.m.
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All fans should maybe stop giving people reasons to act this childish. Bolland wants some attention all he has to do is chirp the Leafs. Who cares?
Aug. 22, 2019 at 5:21 p.m.
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Quoting: DonkeyLips
as some of you may already be aware, I tend to be a bit of a "troll" on here sometimes. However, in spite of that, I am being completely honest and serious when I say the following statement. Most players are better than toews in his prime. He is probably one of the most over rated players of all time. Toews had no business being in the nhls top 100 players of all time. And he certainly should not have been any where near that NHL legends special with Lemieux, Gretzky, Orr, and Crosby.


Jonathan Toews Career Accomplishments:
- 2010 Stanley Cup Champion (29 Points in 22 Games, Conn Smythe)
- 2013 Stanley Cup Champion
- 2015 Stanley Cup Champion (21 Points in 23 Games)
- 2010 Olympic Gold (8 Points, Key Goal in Gold Medal Game, Led Team in Scoring)
- 2014 Olympic Gold (Key Goal in Gold Medal Game, played a key shut-down role the whole tournament)
- 2013 Selke Trophy
- Etc, etc.....

I agree that Toews is in a tier below Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, and Crosby, but I don't agree that he's overrated or that most players are better than him in his prime. Toews is a big game player that has helped lead his team to these Championships. Similar to other great players who have won, he played on great teams. For the media to compare Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner at this early stage of their careers to Toews and Kane is just a slap in the face to both these hall of fame players and Stanley Cup Champions.
Aug. 22, 2019 at 5:40 p.m.
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Quoting: DonkeyLips
as some of you may already be aware, I tend to be a bit of a "troll" on here sometimes. However, in spite of that, I am being completely honest and serious when I say the following statement. Most players are better than toews in his prime. He is probably one of the most over rated players of all time. Toews had no business being in the nhls top 100 players of all time. And he certainly should not have been any where near that NHL legends special with Lemieux, Gretzky, Orr, and Crosby.


Toews is a bonafide number 1 center on a Stanley cup winning team, well actually 3 Stanley cup winning teams if we were counting.


I can’t imagine thinking that “Most players are better than toews in his prime” with all of the accolades that he has. Must be hard being a leafs fan.
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Aug. 22, 2019 at 6:03 p.m.
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ignoring the circlejerk nonsense above, this comment would imply marner should be getting over/around what toews made on his first standard contract, which is when he was in his prime:

toews signed for 11.03% of the cap over 5 years, which translates to 9.04 MIL. So if Bave Dolland is correct, Marner would be worth about 9.5 M on a 5 year contract.

thank you mr bolland.
Aug. 22, 2019 at 7:37 p.m.
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Quoting: SAR
Jonathan Toews Career Accomplishments:
- 2010 Stanley Cup Champion (29 Points in 22 Games, Conn Smythe)
- 2013 Stanley Cup Champion
- 2015 Stanley Cup Champion (21 Points in 23 Games)
- 2010 Olympic Gold (8 Points, Key Goal in Gold Medal Game, Led Team in Scoring)
- 2014 Olympic Gold (Key Goal in Gold Medal Game, played a key shut-down role the whole tournament)
- 2013 Selke Trophy
- Etc, etc.....

I agree that Toews is in a tier below Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, and Crosby, but I don't agree that he's overrated or that most players are better than him in his prime. Toews is a big game player that has helped lead his team to these Championships. Similar to other great players who have won, he played on great teams. For the media to compare Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner at this early stage of their careers to Toews and Kane is just a slap in the face to both these hall of fame players and Stanley Cup Champions.


I may have exaggerated when saying that most players are better than him in his prime. But that does not take away the fact that he is overrated. Yes he has won the Stanley cup three times. That doesn't mean he is as great as the media makes him out to be. Matt Cullen has won three Stanley cups. Where do you suppose he ranks in the list of all time great players? Being awarded the Conn Smythe trophy is nice, but sometimes it is more of a popularity contest and awarded more on reputation than being deserved (Crosby winning it in 2016 instead of Phil Kessel). I'm not saying he wasn't deserving of it, just that it could have easily gone to kane or even Daniel briere that year. The fact that the Canadian media is obsessed with him contributed to him winning over the American Kane. As far as the Olympics are concerned, toews could have been replaced on that team with a traffic cone and the Canadians still win the gold medals those years.
Aug. 22, 2019 at 7:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Stan_Bowman
Toews is a bonafide number 1 center on a Stanley cup winning team, well actually 3 Stanley cup winning teams if we were counting.


I can’t imagine thinking that “Most players are better than toews in his prime” with all of the accolades that he has. Must be hard being a leafs fan.


I am in no way a leafs fan. At least not since the Mogilny, Sundin, Roberts line. Probably the best line in hockey history.
 
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