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Marner Trade

Created by: MitchDezzy
Initial Creation Date: Aug 22, 2019
Published: Aug 22, 2019 at 5:42 pm
Team: 2019-20 New York Islanders
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Marner, Mitchell5$12,000,000
Beauvillier, Anthony1$1,200,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Marner, Mitchell$12,000,000
2020 1st round pick
2021 1st round pick
2022 1st round pick
2023 1st round pick
Trades
NYI
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (EDM)
  2. 2021 1st round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Leddy, Nick
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (NYI)
Buyouts
  • Rick DiPietro: $0
Buried
  • Andrew Ladd: $4,425,000 ($5,500,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
NYI
EDM
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
2021
EDM
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
2022
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
NYI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$81,490,833$0$1,475,000$9,167
Left WingCenterRight Wing
NYI
Lee, Anders
$7,000,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 7
NYI
Nelson, Brock
$6,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
Marner, Mitchell
$12,000,000
RW
UFA - 6
NYI
Bailey, Josh
$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
NYI
Cizikas, Casey
$3,350,000
C
UFA - 2
NYI
Eberle, Jordan
$5,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 5
NYI
Beauvillier, Anthony
$1,200,000
LW
RFA - 2
NYI
Brassard, Derick
$1,200,000
C
UFA - 1
NYI
Wahlstrom, Oliver
$925,000
C, RW
RFA - 3
NYI
Martin, Matt
$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
NYI
Barzal, Mathew
$863,333
C
RFA - 1
NYI
Komarov, Leo
$3,000,000
RW, LW, C
NTC
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NYI
Toews, Devon
$700,000
LD
RFA - 1
NYI
Pulock, Ryan
$2,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
NYI
Varlamov, Semyon
$5,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 4
NYI
Pelech, Adam
$1,600,000
LD
RFA - 2
NYI
Dobson, Noah
$894,167
RD
RFA - 3
NYI
Greiss, Thomas
$3,333,333
G
UFA - 1
NYI
Hickey, Thomas
$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
NYI
Boychuk, Johnny
$6,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
NYI
Kühnhackl, Tom
$850,000
RW
UFA - 1
NYI
Clutterbuck, Cal
$3,500,000
RW
UFA - 3
NYI
Dal Colle, Michael
$700,000
LW
RFA - 2
NYI
Mayfield, Scott
$1,450,000
RD
UFA - 4

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Aug 22, 2019 at 5:51
#1
I just need sauce
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Leafs take those picks. And they offer sheet all of you RFAs. They will offer sheet barzal to a contract that makes your team broke.
Why is barzal on the 4th line
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Aug 22, 2019 at 6:16
#2
LongtimeLeafsufferer
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As silly as it is that the Isles what get the cap hell with an overpayment to Marner....with Barzel and Pullock to be signed next year, isn't this one of the most unrealistic post.
Ladd and his 5.5m has just disappeared. Leddy gets traded with no cap being returned. C'mon. There is reason teams don't make offer sheets. No cap.
Aug 22, 2019 at 6:34
#3
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Quoting: SpaghettiPasta
Leafs take those picks. And they offer sheet all of you RFAs. They will offer sheet barzal to a contract that makes your team broke.
Why is barzal on the 4th line


That's not a real threat. A player has to sign an offer sheet.
Aug 22, 2019 at 7:30
#4
Jangle29
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Quoting: slapshot723
That's not a real threat. A player has to sign an offer sheet.


Exactly, and nobody wants to play in dump island NY, so Marner wouldn't sign that
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Aug 22, 2019 at 7:48
#5
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Why are Islanders fans convinced that Leddy is the second coming of Bobby Orr?
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Aug 22, 2019 at 9:10
#6
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MitchDezzy
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Quoting: Jangle29
Exactly, and nobody wants to play in dump island NY, so Marner wouldn't sign that


LI is so much nicer than that hole Toronto. Don’t confuse Long Island for Long Island City. Two totally different places.
Aug 23, 2019 at 6:17
#7
I just need sauce
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Quoting: MitchDezzy
LI is so much nicer than that hole Toronto. Don’t confuse Long Island for Long Island City. Two totally different places.


I would rather live in Toronto than LI. I'm from Metro Detroit BTW so I'm not baised..
Aug 23, 2019 at 8:38
#8
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Quoting: aspina25
Why are Islanders fans convinced that Leddy is the second coming of Bobby Orr?


We usually ask for 2nd round picks and prospects or an equivalent top-6 forward. No Islander fan thinks he's the second coming of Bobby Orr.
Aug 23, 2019 at 9:19
#9
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Quoting: aspina25
Why are Islanders fans convinced that Leddy is the second coming of Bobby Orr?


No one is saying he is the second coming of Orr, but he's also not worthless. He's a Top 4 (possibly top 2) LHD, with excellent skating, can get the puck out of the zone and can put up 40+ points a season. He's certainly worth a 1st round pick, plus more. Only people who don't think so are people simply looking at his stats last year and think he is regressing, when that is just not true in any sense.
Aug 23, 2019 at 11:37
#10
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Quoting: Hockeygoalie53
No one is saying he is the second coming of Orr, but he's also not worthless. He's a Top 4 (possibly top 2) LHD, with excellent skating, can get the puck out of the zone and can put up 40+ points a season. He's certainly worth a 1st round pick, plus more. Only people who don't think so are people simply looking at his stats last year and think he is regressing, when that is just not true in any sense.


Collin Miller is younger, cheaper, plays a more desirable side and is a better hockey player, yet he barely got more than a 2nd when he was traded earlier this summer. Leddy isn't worth a 1st.
Aug 23, 2019 at 12:14
#11
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Quoting: aspina25
Collin Miller is younger, cheaper, plays a more desirable side and is a better hockey player, yet he barely got more than a 2nd when he was traded earlier this summer. Leddy isn't worth a 1st.


You're not seriously comparing Miller to Leddy, are you? Miller has had ONE season where he scored 40+ points and has played ONE full season of 82 games, other than that he's never played more than 65 games. Not to mention, Miller was moved as a CAP dump as Vegas was WAY over the CAP... meaning he didn't get back what he would have under normal conditions.

Leddy has had 3 seasons (with a 4th season only 3 points away) of 40+ points, has been healthy every season (78 games was his fewest in the last 6 years), Has been the Isles #1 defenseman (meaning he plays against tougher opponents) until last season and isn't being moved as a CAP dump. He's also one of the best skating defenseman in the league and moves the puck out of the zone with ease.

Leddy absolutely brings back more than Miller easily, because if no one offers a 1st the Isles hold on to him and move him at the TDL or next offseason.
Aug 23, 2019 at 12:22
#12
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Quoting: Hockeygoalie53
You're not seriously comparing Miller to Leddy, are you? Miller has had ONE season where he scored 40+ points and has played ONE full season of 82 games, other than that he's never played more than 65 games. Not to mention, Miller was moved as a CAP dump as Vegas was WAY over the CAP... meaning he didn't get back what he would have under normal conditions.

Leddy has had 3 seasons (with a 4th season only 3 points away) of 40+ points, has been healthy every season (78 games was his fewest in the last 6 years), Has been the Isles #1 defenseman (meaning he plays against tougher opponents) until last season and isn't being moved as a CAP dump. He's also one of the best skating defenseman in the league and moves the puck out of the zone with ease.

Leddy absolutely brings back more than Miller easily, because if no one offers a 1st the Isles hold on to him and move him at the TDL or next offseason.


You lose all credibility when the first stat you use to judge a Defenseman is points.
Aug 23, 2019 at 1:17
#13
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Quoting: aspina25
You lose all credibility when the first stat you use to judge a Defenseman is points.


And you lose all credibility when you make **** comparisons... and by the way points was ONE comparison I made between them, but that's the one you want to focus on to call me out on not knowing how to judge a defenseman it just leads to my argument you have no idea what you're talking about. Miller isn't better than Leddy, he may become better than him because he's younger and has room to improve, but he's not better than him now... plain and simple.
Aug 23, 2019 at 5:26
#14
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Quoting: Jangle29
Exactly, and nobody wants to play in dump island NY, so Marner wouldn't sign that


Jordan Eberle: "It's becoming well known around the league that the Island is a place guys want to play, with the stability that Lou and Barry provide. I approached Lou about signing an extension shortly after the season ended and it sorta went from there."
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Aug 23, 2019 at 7:51
#15
Jangle29
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Quoting: MitchDezzy
LI is so much nicer than that hole Toronto. Don’t confuse Long Island for Long Island City. Two totally different places.


But he lives in Toronto. Sorry. Nobody wants to play there
Aug 23, 2019 at 7:52
#16
Jangle29
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Quoting: linehan10
Jordan Eberle: "It's becoming well known around the league that the Island is a place guys want to play, with the stability that Lou and Barry provide. I approached Lou about signing an extension shortly after the season ended and it sorta went from there."


Lol ya that proves me wrong. It's a gas can. One of the jokes of the league. I'm not trying to be a dbag, it's the same as my baseball team the Jays. Nobody wants to play in these places
Aug 23, 2019 at 7:59
#17
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Quoting: Jangle29
Lol ya that proves me wrong. It's a gas can. One of the jokes of the league. I'm not trying to be a dbag, it's the same as my baseball team the Jays. Nobody wants to play in these places


I'm just saying that you said nhl players don't want to play on long island, but eberle said they do. Brassard also backed out of a deal with the Oilers to come here just this week. Two years ago id probably agree with you, but with the arena now and the stability in the front office and behind the bench, i don't
Aug 24, 2019 at 5:28
#18
Jangle29
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Quoting: linehan10
I'm just saying that you said nhl players don't want to play on long island, but eberle said they do. Brassard also backed out of a deal with the Oilers to come here just this week. Two years ago id probably agree with you, but with the arena now and the stability in the front office and behind the bench, i don't


We will see, but Panarin turned down lots of cash just to live not far away. Lou is poison man. Leafs have been trying to clean his garbage up for a year now and once Marner is signed it's finished. He's an idiot and I bet most players don't want to play for him
 
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