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Risto

Initial Creation Date: Aug 23, 2019
Published: Aug 23, 2019 at 3:47 pm
Team: 2019-20 Calgary Flames
Team Explanation
Brodie can help BUF remain competitive now and be resigned. Brodie's UFA status is the reason for the extra 3rd rounder.

Gillies is a throw in. He moves closer to home to restart his career. Also solves Flames AHL/ECHL goalie log jam.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Tkachuk, Matthew5$8,250,000
Mangiapane, Andrew2$1,100,000
Trades
CGY
  1. 2020 4th round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Frolík, Michael
CGY
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
BUF
  1. Brodie, TJ
  2. Gillies, Jon
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (CGY)
  4. 2021 3rd round pick (CGY)
Buyouts
  • Troy Brouwer: $1,500,000
  • Michael Stone: $1,166,667
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
CGY
CGY
NJD
CGY
CGY
CGY
2021
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
2022
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
CGY
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$79,313,809$0$322,500$2,186,191
Left WingCenterRight Wing
CGY
Gaudreau, Johnny
$6,750,000
LW
UFA - 3
CGY
Monahan, Sean
$6,375,000
C
UFA - 4
CGY
Lindholm, Elias
$4,850,000
RW, C
UFA - 5
CGY
Tkachuk, Matthew
$8,250,000
LW
RFA - 3
CGY
Backlund, Mikael
$5,350,000
C
NTC
UFA - 5
CGY
Bennett, Sam
$2,550,000
RW, C, LW
RFA - 2
CGY
Mangiapane, Andrew
$1,100,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
CGY
Ryan, Derek
$3,125,000
C
UFA - 2
CGY
Jankowski, Mark
$1,675,000
C
RFA - 1
CGY
Lucic, Milan
$5,250,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 4
CGY
Dubé, Dillon
$778,333
C
RFA - 2
CGY
Czarnik, Austin
$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
CGY
Lomberg, Ryan
$700,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
CGY
Giordano, Mark
$6,750,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 3
CGY
Rittich, David
$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
CGY
Hanifin, Noah
$4,950,000
LD
UFA - 5
CGY
Hamonic, Travis
$3,857,143
RD
UFA - 1
CGY
Talbot, Cam
$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
CGY
Kylington, Oliver
$730,833
LD
RFA - 1
CGY
Andersson, Rasmus
$755,833
RD
UFA - 1
CGY
Davidson, Brandon
$700,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Aug 23, 2019 at 3:48
#1
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Keep Brodie.
Aug 23, 2019 at 3:54
#2
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sabres say no
Aug 23, 2019 at 4:00
#3
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Quoting: asauer1122
sabres say no


HUH???
Aug 23, 2019 at 4:04
#4
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Quoting: asauer1122
sabres say no

Quoting: SammyT_51
HUH???


I thought Flames were overpaying as well.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Aug 23, 2019 at 4:04
#5
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Quoting: ItWasInOhThreeOhFour
I thought Flames were overpaying as well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Brodie alone is much more valuable than Risto.
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Aug 23, 2019 at 4:08
#6
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Brodie alone is much more valuable than Risto.


You think so? I see them almost as a wash except Risto is under control for 3 more years.
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Aug 23, 2019 at 4:15
#7
get off my lawn...
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Quoting: ItWasInOhThreeOhFour
You think so? I see them almost as a wash except Risto is under control for 3 more years.


It’s close but Brodie’s value may increase for having less term. Neither are good defensively.
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Aug 23, 2019 at 4:19
#8
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Quoting: ItWasInOhThreeOhFour
You think so? I see them almost as a wash except Risto is under control for 3 more years.


Oh yeah Im sure of it. Go check out both of those links I will post here smile https://evolving-hockey.com/ (RAPM charts section and look them up) and https://public.tableau.com/profile/christopher.turtoro#!/vizhome/2-yearA3ZPlayerComps/ComparisonDashboard and find both of those guys in there.
Aug 23, 2019 at 4:21
#9
J81camp
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Quoting: Jamiepo
It’s close but Brodie’s value may increase for having less term. Neither are good defensively.


I think Brodie +29 says different hes not the best but hes good would have to have a extension in place but I would also take out the2nd this year and add frolik
Aug 23, 2019 at 4:35
#10
SabresFan1996
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Buffalo would want a forward back not a defenseman or goalie because they have 5 goalies under NHL contracts and have 10 defenders that could play in the NHL that includes Risto
Aug 23, 2019 at 4:54
#11
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Quoting: DahlinOlofsson67
Buffalo would want a forward back not a defenseman or goalie because they have 5 goalies under NHL contracts and have 10 defenders that could play in the NHL that includes Risto


Any Frolik interest? Not sure what BUF's cap situation is like. Czarnik is also a lesser, cheaper option.
Aug 23, 2019 at 5:00
#12
SabresFan1996
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Quoting: ItWasInOhThreeOhFour
Any Frolik interest? Not sure what BUF's cap situation is like. Czarnik is also a lesser, cheaper option.


I like Frolik and Buffalo is over the cap right now so in moving out RIsto for him it would save them almost a mil in cap
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Aug 23, 2019 at 5:18
#13
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Quoting: SammyT_51
HUH???


You are embarrassing yourself again
Aug 23, 2019 at 5:19
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Guys, ristolainen isnt karl alzner, he has value albeit diminished from a year ago.

This place sometimes...
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Aug 23, 2019 at 5:20
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Quoting: DahlinOlofsson67
Buffalo would want a forward back not a defenseman or goalie because they have 5 goalies under NHL contracts and have 10 defenders that could play in the NHL that includes Risto


12 including risto
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Aug 23, 2019 at 5:25
#16
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
You are embarrassing yourself again


With what? Opposing the idea of Buffalo not signing up for a deal giving them much better Dman and other very good assets? Whats embarassment about that?
Aug 23, 2019 at 6:01
#17
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Guys, ristolainen isnt karl alzner, he has value albeit diminished from a year ago.

This place sometimes...


I believe Risto has great value. He has 4 seasons of 40+ points, is 24 years old, 6' 4" and shoots right. His 5.4 million cap hit is reasonable for a Top 4 dman in todays NHL.

That's why I originally added the 2nd and 3rd rounders. Perhaps the 3rd would be conditional on Brodie resigning or completely removed if BUF could negotiate an extension with him.
Aug 23, 2019 at 6:11
#18
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Quoting: ItWasInOhThreeOhFour
I believe Risto has great value. He has 4 seasons of 40+ points, is 24 years old, 6' 4" and shoots right. His 5.4 million cap hit is reasonable for a Top 4 dman in todays NHL.

That's why I originally added the 2nd and 3rd rounders. Perhaps the 3rd would be conditional on Brodie resigning or completely removed if BUF could negotiate an extension with him.


We have 12 defensemen
Aug 24, 2019 at 10:31
#19
future lamentation
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I think Buffalo wins the talent value exchange, it saves Buffalo cap space, Buffalo does not need another GK, Frolik would be nice but would put Buffalo over the cap.
I would like to add Frolik to the deal, drop Gillies, this cuts the Flames cap.
All in all make the deal, then figure out the cap later.

Quoting: asauer1122
sabres say no

That would be a big error
Quoting: SammyT_51
HUH???

Yup, If I was Buffalo I make this trade
Quoting: ItWasInOhThreeOhFour
I thought Flames were overpaying as well.. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I agree
Quoting: Jamiepo
It’s close but Brodie’s value may increase for having less term. Neither are good defensively.

yup
Quoting: J81camp
I think Brodie +29 says different hes not the best but hes good would have to have a extension in place but I would also take out the2nd this year and add frolik

+29 on a very good team.
Quoting: DahlinOlofsson67
Buffalo would want a forward back not a defenseman or goalie because they have 5 goalies under NHL contracts and have 10 defenders that could play in the NHL that includes Risto

But they could also use a third LHD instead of Scandella or if Pilut needs more time in the AHL.
Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
12 including risto

yes it is 12, but trading away a RHD for LHD, I would prefer a top 6 winger but a LHD does not hurt either.
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