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Eks Rumor

Created by: erh1991
Initial Creation Date: Aug 23, 2019
Published: Aug 23, 2019 at 3:56 pm
Team: 2019-20 Detroit Red Wings
Trades
DET
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  2. Cozens, Dylan
BUF
  1. Mantha, Anthony
  2. Svechnikov, Evgeny
  3. McIsaac, Jared
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (WSH)
Buyouts
  • Stephen Weiss: $1,666,667
  • Xavier Ouellet: $216,667
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
DET
DET
DET
SJS
DET
DET
DET
2021
DET
DET
DET
VGK
DET
DET
DET
DET
2022
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
DET
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$79,391,210$145,000$2,982,500$2,108,790
Left WingCenterRight Wing
DET
Abdelkader, Justin
$4,250,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 4
DET
Larkin, Dylan
$6,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 4
DET
Franzen, Johan
$3,954,545
RW, LW
UFA - 1
DET
Bertuzzi, Tyler
$1,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
DET
Zetterberg, Henrik
$6,083,333
C
UFA - 2
DET
Erne, Adam
$1,050,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
DET
Nielsen, Frans
$5,250,000
C
NTC
UFA - 3
DET
Rasmussen, Michael
$894,166
LW, C, RW
RFA - 2
DET
Helm, Darren
$3,850,000
C, LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 2
DET
Athanasiou, Andreas
$3,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
DET
Filppula, Valtteri
$3,000,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
DET
Glendening, Luke
$1,800,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
DET
De La Rose, Jacob
$900,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
BUF
Cozens, Dylan
$925,000
C
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
DET
DeKeyser, Danny
$5,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
DET
Green, Mike
$5,375,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
DET
Howard, Jimmy
$4,000,000
G
UFA - 1
DET
Ericsson, Jonathan
$4,250,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 1
DET
Daley, Trevor
$3,166,666
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
DET
Bernier, Jonathan
$3,000,000
G
UFA - 2
DET
Nemeth, Patrik
$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
DET
Bowey, Madison
$1,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 3
DET
Hronek, Filip
$714,166
RD
RFA - 2

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Aug 23, 2019 at 3:57
#1
#DisruptTheNight
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Buffalo getting smacked hard
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Aug 23, 2019 at 3:58
#2
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Quoting: Hedman77
Buffalo getting smacked hard


How so? They are only giving up one valuable piece here.
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Aug 23, 2019 at 4:02
#3
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LGRW
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Im only a fan of this if svech is a bust
Aug 23, 2019 at 4:08
#4
#DisruptTheNight
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Quoting: feds91stammer
How so? They are only giving up one valuable piece here.


I assume you’re talking about Ristolainen being not valuable.
Ristolainen is underrated on this site. Yeah he’s not good defensively but he’s still a solid player who’d easily be the best on detroit’s blue line
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Aug 23, 2019 at 4:09
#5
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Risto is certainly overpaid for what he brings, but he's not a bad player. He's a better option on defense than Trevor Daley.

I don't think Buffalo is getting "smacked hard" but I think Detroit definitely wins this trade. The Wings walk away with the best piece of the deal while Buffalo gets several less impactful players.

I wouldn't do it if I was Botterill.
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Aug 23, 2019 at 4:10
#6
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Quoting: Hedman77
I assume you’re talking about Ristolainen being not valuable.
Ristolainen is underrated on this site. Yeah he’s not good defensively but he’s still a solid player who’d easily be the best on detroit’s blue line


Absolutely not. Risto is just like someone you should be very familiar with. A tall goofy missing tooth Oakland Raider hat wearing jabroni. Andrej Sustr.
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Aug 23, 2019 at 4:13
#7
#DisruptTheNight
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Quoting: feds91stammer
Absolutely not. Risto is just like someone you should be very familiar with. A tall goofy missing tooth Oakland Raider hat wearing jabroni. Andrej Sustr.


Hey risto is at least NHL level, not fair to compare him to Sustr
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Aug 23, 2019 at 4:18
#8
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Quoting: Hedman77
Hey risto is at least NHL level, not fair to compare him to Sustr


I swear risto did something to this dude's family. He's the main toxic culprit for the risto hate. Always using the same lame lines for risto
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Aug 23, 2019 at 4:19
#9
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I wouldn’t trade McIsaac, Svech and a 2nd for Risto.
And I wouldn’t have traded Mantha to pick later than Byram in this years draft. I like Cozens, but I don’t like this trade.
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Aug 23, 2019 at 4:21
#10
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Quoting: Hedman77
Hey risto is at least NHL level, not fair to compare him to Sustr


Outside of the PP they are literally the same player.
Aug 23, 2019 at 4:21
#11
Team caaaannnaaada
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Quoting: Hedman77
Buffalo getting smacked hard


Last new where steve yzerman went on surgery to repair ass tissue!
Aug 23, 2019 at 4:21
#12
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Quoting: wojme
I swear risto did something to this dude's family. He's the main toxic culprit for the risto hate. Always using the same lame lines for risto


Nah he just sucks and I am tired of seeing him traded for Mantha or AA
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Aug 23, 2019 at 4:26
#13
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Quoting: Sebybbq
Last new where steve yzerman went on surgery to repair ass tissue!


In English?
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Aug 23, 2019 at 4:26
#14
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Quoting: feds91stammer
Outside of the PP they are literally the same player.


He had 43 ****ing points
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Aug 23, 2019 at 4:32
#15
Team caaaannnaaada
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Quoting: Hedman77
In English?


Latest new yzerman was saw in a wheel chair! Is ass got damage by jason boterill
Aug 23, 2019 at 4:33
#16
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Quoting: Hedman77
He had 43 ****ing points


That's cool.

5v5 career numbers
P/60
Sustr: 0.67
Risto: 0.61
P1/60
Sustr: 0.36
Risto: 0.35

How about Game Score per 60
Sustr: 0.74
Risto: 0.18

Or maybe WAR/60
Sustr: 0
Risto: -0.03
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Aug 23, 2019 at 4:45
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Quoting: feds91stammer
That's cool.

5v5 career numbers
P/60
Sustr: 0.67
Risto: 0.61
P1/60
Sustr: 0.36
Risto: 0.35

How about Game Score per 60
Sustr: 0.74
Risto: 0.18

Or maybe WAR/60
Sustr: 0
Risto: -0.03



Sustr has 63 career points to Ristos 194 career points and sustr was in the minors this past season
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Aug 23, 2019 at 4:46
#18
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Quoting: DahlinOlofsson67
Sustr has 63 career points to Ristos 194 career points and sustr was in the minors this past season


That's the point...
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Aug 23, 2019 at 5:21
#19
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Quoting: feds91stammer
Absolutely not. Risto is just like someone you should be very familiar with. A tall goofy missing tooth Oakland Raider hat wearing jabroni. Andrej Sustr.


Thank god middle school starts next week
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Aug 24, 2019 at 10:07
#20
future lamentation
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I could see Betterall making this trade

Ristolainen, Rasmus more or less equal to Mantha, Anthony.
We could go round and round on the value of each player, but DET gets a RHD PP QB, BUF gets its second line winger. I think this is called a hockey trade.

Then it is Cozens, Dylan for Svechnikov, Evgeny; McIsaac, Jared and 2020 2nd round pick (WSH)
Svechnikov (19 overall in 2015) seems to another Alex Nylander IMO a real shot in the dark, but not showing a lot NHL potential.
McIsaac (36 overall in 2018) gets better every year 32, 47 and 62 pts the last 3 years. He appears to be headed for the NHL in the future.
2020 2nd, picks always look good to me.
Cozens, Dylan has an NHL future written on his resume. IMO Buffalo gets 3 fair chances of getting a future NHL player while trading away 1 good one.
So Buffalo gets a winger for Ristolainen and a bunch of maybes for Cozens.
I like the players Betterall drafts, but I also like the players Detroit drafts, only time will tell who wins the prospect half of the trade.
I think I would make the trade if I were the Buffalo GM.
Let's make a deal, cheers

Quoting: Hedman77
Buffalo getting smacked hard

You could be right, it all depends on the prospects and one will not know for several years.
Quoting: erh1991
Im only a fan of this if svech is a bust

LOL, I am only a fan of this trade is Svechnikov is a top 6 forward in the future.
Quoting: tkecanuck341
Risto is certainly overpaid for what he brings, but he's not a bad player. He's a better option on defense than Trevor Daley.
I don't think Buffalo is getting "smacked hard" but I think Detroit definitely wins this trade. The Wings walk away with the best piece of the deal while Buffalo gets several less impactful players.
I wouldn't do it if I was Botterill.

I agree, Buffalo is trading from surplus (RHD) to fill a need top six forward. If Buffalo loses a little on the talent exchange, they make it up filling a hole in the line up. I think it would be a good move for Buffalo
Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Thank god middle school starts next week

OMW I agree, feds91stammer does not like any thing about Ristolainen. I know he has warts, but he brings a lot to the ice.
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Aug 24, 2019 at 12:56
#21
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Quoting: GMTD
I agree, Buffalo is trading from surplus (RHD) to fill a need top six forward. If Buffalo loses a little on the talent exchange, they make it up filling a hole in the line up. I think it would be a good move for Buffalo


If Risto is all they were giving up, then I'd say go for it. Cozens is the best asset Buffalo has after Eichel and Dahlin. None of the pieces they're acquiring make up for his loss. The only way I'd include Cozens in a trade to Detroit is if Larkin was coming back.
Aug 24, 2019 at 1:04
#22
future lamentation
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
If Risto is all they were giving up, then I'd say go for it. Cozens is the best asset Buffalo has after Eichel and Dahlin. None of the pieces they're acquiring make up for his loss. The only way I'd include Cozens in a trade to Detroit is if Larkin was coming back.


I like Cozens, but I think you are underestimating Olofsson, Thompson, Asplund, Ruotsalainen.
Thompson played really well in Rochester after being sent down and the best player in the French connection 3 on 3.
I also think Svechnikov, and McIsaac will turn into NHL players, in particular McIsaac.
So Buffalo is trading a good center prospect for a good defenseman prospect and a 2nd and a project.
IMO Mantha will get his 30 goals this year, we add size up front, and give Buffalo two good lines.
Aug 24, 2019 at 1:11
#23
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Quoting: GMTD
I like Cozens, but I think you are underestimating Olofsson, Thompson, Asplund, Ruotsalainen.
Thompson played really well in Rochester after being sent down and the best player in the French connection 3 on 3.
I also think Svechnikov, and McIsaac will turn into NHL players, in particular McIsaac.
So Buffalo is trading a good center prospect for a good defenseman prospect and a 2nd and a project.
IMO Mantha will get his 30 goals this year, we add size up front, and give Buffalo two good lines.


Those are all good players. None of them have the ceiling that Cozens has. Change Mantha to Larkin and I'd do it.
Aug 24, 2019 at 9:38
#24
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
Those are all good players. None of them have the ceiling that Cozens has. Change Mantha to Larkin and I'd do it.


Haha
Aug 26, 2019 at 9:07
#25
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Thank god middle school starts next week


Boy this is going to be a rough week for you Risto lovers. I am going to bring up the heat.
 
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