Risto for mantha rumor E4

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Created by: BigDog91

Team: 2019-20 Buffalo Sabres

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 23, 2019

Published: Aug. 23, 2019

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Yes I know Eklund is the worst source in NHL. Just trying to see wat a deal would look like.

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$74,434,167	$0	$5,107,500	$7,065,833

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Skinner, Jeff $9,000,000$9,000,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 8	Eichel, Jack $10,000,000$10,000,000 C UFA - 7	Reinhart, Sam $3,650,000$3,650,000 RW UFA - 1
Olofsson, Victor $767,500$767,500 ($132,500$132K) RW, LW UFA - 1	Mittelstadt, Casey $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) LW, C RFA - 1	Mantha, Anthony $3,300,000$3,300,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Johansson, Marcus $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Bonino, Nick $4,100,000$4,100,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Thompson, Tage $925,000$925,000 ($425,000$425K) C UFA - 1
Vesey, Jimmy $2,275,000$2,275,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Rodrigues, Evan $2,000,000$2,000,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Okposo, Kyle $6,000,000$6,000,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 4

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Dahlin, Rasmus $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) LD/RD UFA - 2	Miller, Colin $3,875,000$3,875,000 RD UFA - 3	Hutton, Carter $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 2
McCabe, Jake $2,850,000$2,850,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Montour, Brandon $3,387,500$3,387,500 RD UFA - 1	Ullmark, Linus $1,325,000$1,325,000 G UFA - 1
Scandella, Marco $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD UFA - 1
	Jokiharju, Henri $925,000$925,000 ($425,000$425K) RD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Wilson, Scott $1,050,000$1,050,000 LW UFA - 1	Pilut, Lawrence $925,000$925,000 ($425,000$425K) LD UFA - 1
Nelson, Casey $812,500$812,500 RD UFA - 1	Bogosian, Zach $1,300,000$1,300,000 RD UFA - 1

Aug. 23, 2019 at 9:07 p.m.

AndrewLadd

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Big no by Detroit

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Aug. 23, 2019 at 9:09 p.m.

skriko

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no rumor ,its a joke. so bad for wings

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Aug. 23, 2019 at 9:16 p.m.

aedoran

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In this case he is the only source I couldn't find any other people talking about it.

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Aug. 23, 2019 at 9:25 p.m.

DiehardRedWingsFan58

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No way in hell Yzerman would ever deal Mantha for Ristolainen, And McIsaac sure as hell isn't available.

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Aug. 23, 2019 at 9:43 p.m.

BigDog91

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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58

No way in hell Yzerman would ever deal Mantha for Ristolainen, And McIsaac sure as hell isn't available.

I don’t know a lot about mclsaac was just looking to add B-B+ prospect and he was second round pick.

Aug. 23, 2019 at 10:17 p.m.

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Edited Aug. 23, 2019 at 10:26 p.m.

Quoting: BigDog91

I don’t know a lot about mclsaac was just looking to add B-B+ prospect and he was second round pick.

Why would you have to add?? Mantha is, by far, the best player in the trade. Girgensons is less than meh. Asplund is ok. Not nearly enough to make up the difference between a 1st line winger and a 4/5 dman that doesn't know how to play defense...

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Aug. 23, 2019 at 11:13 p.m.

aedoran

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Quoting: BigDog91

I don’t know a lot about mclsaac was just looking to add B-B+ prospect and he was second round pick.

You are right 2nd round pick but that draft was pretty deep or so they say I guess time will tell.

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Aug. 24, 2019 at 1:52 a.m.

Ccc

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If anyone sends a prospect like McIssac or anything extra the other way it’s buffalo, Risto much less tha Manthas value

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Aug. 24, 2019 at 6:13 a.m.

BigDog91

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Quoting: Ccc

If anyone sends a prospect like McIssac or anything extra the other way it’s buffalo, Risto much less tha Manthas value

Quoting: Ccc

If anyone sends a prospect like McIssac or anything extra the other way it’s buffalo, Risto much less tha Manthas value

Quoting: Riley816

I think you guys vastly overvaluing mantha. He is 25 goal and 50 point guy. His contract will be up next year and will expect a pay raise. Meanwhile risto has
scored more points then him the past three years. If he is able to play in second pairing role then he will excel. He has always been forced to play 25+ mins a night against other teams top line and a lot of PK mins. If you could cut his time to 22 mins and no PK. He would still get you 40+ points and be much better defensively. He is still just a baby.

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Aug. 24, 2019 at 6:49 a.m.

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Yea I can definitely see Yzerman trading away Mantha for Risto, lol

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Aug. 24, 2019 at 8:45 a.m.

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First, you are all correct, it is unlikely that Detroit will trade Mantha unless the return is remarkable
Second, the same can be said about Ristolainen.
Third please go to https://public.tableau.com/profile/christopher.turtoro#!/vizhome/2-yearA3ZPlayerComps/ComparisonDashboard and https://evolving-hockey.com/ RAPM charts
Then compare Mantha with Conor Sheary, you will be as surprised as I am. Who would have thought that the comparisons would be as close.
So let's agree to disagree that, Detroit will not make this trade.

Quoting: klondikebar

Big no by Detroit

Quoting: skriko

no rumor ,its a joke. so bad for wings

Quoting: aedoran

In this case he is the only source I couldn't find any other people talking about it.

Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58

No way in hell Yzerman would ever deal Mantha for Ristolainen, And McIsaac sure as hell isn't available.

Quoting: Riley816

Quoting: Ccc

If anyone sends a prospect like McIssac or anything extra the other way it’s buffalo, Risto much less tha Manthas value

Quoting: matulix

Yea I can definitely see Yzerman trading away Mantha for Risto, lol

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Aug. 24, 2019 at 12:12 p.m.

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DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Quoting: BigDog91

I don’t know a lot about mclsaac was just looking to add B-B+ prospect and he was second round pick.

Yeah i believe he was drafted like #36 overall, So early in the 2nd round as was Hronek and he's looking like a stud already. McIsaac has the tools to be a pretty effective top 4 guy. Time will tell once his shoulder injury heals.

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