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This team is gonna be a dynasty

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Team: 2020-21 Colorado Avalanche
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Aug. 26, 2019 at 9:46 a.m.
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yes, yes they are. Just need that franchise goalie.
Aug. 26, 2019 at 9:51 a.m.
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^ we'll give you price for byram smirk
Aug. 26, 2019 at 9:53 a.m.
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Better hope u draft Askarov or Wallstedt next year
Aug. 26, 2019 at 9:53 a.m.
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^ we'll give you price for byram smirk


tears of joy
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Aug. 26, 2019 at 9:54 a.m.
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yes, yes they are. Just need that franchise goalie.


Grubauer may still be it, and we can always hope that if not then Francouz is the next Hasek. cool

Still say the smart move this season would be a trade with NYR to give them cap space on Namestnikov, as the Avs can absorb it and take Georgiev for the future, probably have to flick a 2nd back to them.
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Aug. 26, 2019 at 9:58 a.m.
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Detroit was a dynasty, 4 cup wins 2 more cup finals in a 25 year run. Let me know when Colorado makes that run. Then we can call them a dynasty.
Aug. 26, 2019 at 10:00 a.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Detroit was a dynasty, 4 cup wins 2 more cup finals in a 25 year run. Let me know when Colorado makes that run. Then we can call them a dynasty.


I said they are going to be not they are
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Aug. 26, 2019 at 10:01 a.m.
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Grubauer may still be it, and we can always hope that if not then Francouz is the next Hasek. cool

Still say the smart move this season would be a trade with NYR to give them cap space on Namestnikov, as the Avs can absorb it and take Georgiev for the future, probably have to flick a 2nd back to them.


Someone finally puts respect on Georgiev’s name
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Aug. 26, 2019 at 10:01 a.m.
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Grubauer may still be it, and we can always hope that if not then Francouz is the next Hasek. cool

Still say the smart move this season would be a trade with NYR to give them cap space on Namestnikov, as the Avs can absorb it and take Georgiev for the future, probably have to flick a 2nd back to them.


Someone finally puts respect on Georgiev’s name
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Aug. 26, 2019 at 10:03 a.m.
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Someone finally puts respect on Georgiev’s name


Georgiev is good, but I can’t see him being the goalie for a dynasty
Aug. 26, 2019 at 10:03 a.m.
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I said they are going to be not they are


It takes a lot to be considered a dynasty, You can have all the talent in the world. And it doesn't always translate into a dynasty.
Aug. 26, 2019 at 10:04 a.m.
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Someone finally puts respect on Georgiev’s name


From what I'm hearing a lot of Rangers fans think Shesterkin (sp?) is going to be the go to guy for the future, so Georgiev may be surplus to requirements? Makes sense for both teams I'd say if that's the case. Only issue could be the expansion draft for COL with Georgiev but not sure where he will stand by that point or if they can guard him a little.
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Aug. 26, 2019 at 10:07 a.m.
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Georgiev is good, but I can’t see him being the goalie for a dynasty


Yeah but it's often tough these days to see a goalie who could be a dynasty goalie. King Henrik, Price, Quick, on the right teams most certainly. Got to have the team in front of you and be the saving grace when needed.
Aug. 26, 2019 at 10:07 a.m.
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Yeah but it's often tough these days to see a goalie who could be a dynasty goalie. King Henrik, Price, Quick, on the right teams most certainly. Got to have the team in front of you and be the saving grace when needed.


Exactly. I could see the Avs keeping their 1st this year to trade up for Askarov
Aug. 26, 2019 at 10:18 a.m.
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Exactly. I could see the Avs keeping their 1st this year to trade up for Askarov


avs are going to be in the playoffs i don;t see how to get a pick to take askarov with including like makar or someone of value
Aug. 26, 2019 at 10:18 a.m.
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Quoting: DiehardRedWingsFan58
Detroit was a dynasty, 4 cup wins 2 more cup finals in a 25 year run. Let me know when Colorado makes that run. Then we can call them a dynasty.


4 cup wins in 25 years isn't a dynasty. Too long a period. The closest they got in recent times was in the period where they were up against two teams in the league's top four (imho) on a regular basis. If it hadn't been for NJ, Colorado and Dallas they probably would have been in that era. You could maybe argue a dynasty period there (3 in 6). Likewise you could say the same for Colorado with NJ, Detroit and Dallas if the others hadn't been so strong. Dynasty teams are the likes of the Oilers in their period (5 in 7), or the Red Wings of 49-55 (4 in 6).

It's highly unlikely we'll see dynasties of that type again with the salary cap era, though Colorado ARE building in what is probably going to be the right way to get a shot at it.
Aug. 26, 2019 at 10:22 a.m.
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avs are going to be in the playoffs i don;t see how to get a pick to take askarov with including like makar or someone of value


How high is Askarov ranked. IMO he’s like 15, which the Avs could do
Aug. 26, 2019 at 10:25 a.m.
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Exactly. I could see the Avs keeping their 1st this year to trade up for Askarov


Whilst they were an exceptional team it probably illustrates what I say when you look at the Oilers......Fuhr, Moog, Ranford.....franchise goalies? (Maaaaybe Fuhr). Or guys who could do it behind a very, very good team? Only gotta make the save, don't have to be the best in the league to do it if your team are reducing the opportunities, and vice versa if you're getting shellacked every night it doesn't matter how good you are, some are going to go in.
Aug. 26, 2019 at 10:28 a.m.
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Whilst they were an exceptional team it probably illustrates what I say when you look at the Oilers......Fuhr, Moog, Ranford.....franchise goalies? (Maaaaybe Fuhr). Or guys who could do it behind a very, very good team? Only gotta make the save, don't have to be the best in the league to do it if your team are reducing the opportunities, and vice versa if you're getting shellacked every night it doesn't matter how good you are, some are going to go in.


They weren’t franchise goalies maybe but they were damn good goalies. Definitely a step or 2 above Grubaeur.
Aug. 26, 2019 at 10:39 a.m.
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They weren’t franchise goalies maybe but they were damn good goalies. Definitely a step or 2 above Grubaeur.


But it's to illustrate my point. Decent goalies behind a great team. They're franchise goalies because the team won admittedly, but were they the elite goalies? Nope.

How Grubauer turns out remains to be seen. This will be his first season as the undisputed #1 (bar him nose-diving and Francouz coming in). Interesting to note he's never dropped below .912 in any team at any level since the 2010-11 season. ECHL, AHL, NHL, International. The question will be how he handles the workload and the play offs as his form has been erratic there.

I'm not saying he's at Fuhr/Moog level yet (I never thought all that highly of Ranford as I remember, and Fuhr could be very erratic) but he hasn't really had the opportunity yet to show what he can do. The small window we've seen in the NHL is promising.
Aug. 26, 2019 at 11:05 a.m.
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4 cup wins in 25 years isn't a dynasty. Too long a period. The closest they got in recent times was in the period where they were up against two teams in the league's top four (imho) on a regular basis. If it hadn't been for NJ, Colorado and Dallas they probably would have been in that era. You could maybe argue a dynasty period there (3 in 6). Likewise you could say the same for Colorado with NJ, Detroit and Dallas if the others hadn't been so strong. Dynasty teams are the likes of the Oilers in their period (5 in 7), or the Red Wings of 49-55 (4 in 6).

It's highly unlikely we'll see dynasties of that type again with the salary cap era, though Colorado ARE building in what is probably going to be the right way to get a shot at it.


Chicago won 3/6 between 2010 and 2015, were they a dynasty?
LA won 2/3 between 2012 and 2014, were they a dynasty?
Pittsburgh won 2/2 in 2016 and 2017 and are considered a perennial contender, are they a dynasty?

It's really hard to consider the 1997-2002 Wings a dynasty when other teams have matched their achievements more recently and aren't labeled as such.
Aug. 26, 2019 at 11:18 a.m.
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Chicago won 3/6 between 2010 and 2015, were they a dynasty?
LA won 2/3 between 2012 and 2014, were they a dynasty?
Pittsburgh won 2/2 in 2016 and 2017 and are considered a perennial contender, are they a dynasty?

It's really hard to consider the 1997-2002 Wings a dynasty when other teams have matched their achievements more recently and aren't labeled as such.


That's my whole point, those are closer to dynasties than 4 in 25, and likewise why I said 'you could maybe argue' for the 97-02 Wings, and you'll never know how much it pains me to say that as an Avs fan! I did point out that the Oilers 5 in 7 and Red Wings 4 in 6 are dynasty teams. If you want the full list of those that are officially recognised as dynasties by the NHL and hockey hall of fame:

Ottawa Senators of 1919–27 (4 Stanley Cup championships in 8 years) 1920, 1921, 1923, 1927
Toronto Maple Leafs of 1946–51 (4 Stanley Cups in 5 years) 1947–1949, 1951
Detroit Red Wings of 1949–55 (4 Stanley Cups in 6 years) 1950, 1952, 1954–1955
Montreal Canadiens of 1955–60 (5 consecutive Stanley Cups) 1956–1960
Toronto Maple Leafs of 1962–67 (4 Stanley Cups in 6 years) 1962–1964, 1967
Montreal Canadiens of 1964–69 (4 Stanley Cups in 5 years) 1965–1966, 1968–1969
Montreal Canadiens of 1975–79 (4 consecutive Stanley Cups) 1976–1979
New York Islanders of 1980–84 (4 consecutive Stanley Cups and 19 consecutive playoff series wins) 1980–1984
Edmonton Oilers of 1983–90 (5 Stanley Cups in 7 years) 1984–1985, 1987–1988, 1990

Which is why I said maybe at 3 in 6 the Wings were close. Certainly versus the Senators at 4 in 8. You really only reinforced my point!
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Aug. 26, 2019 at 11:30 a.m.
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That's my whole point, those are closer to dynasties than 4 in 25, and likewise why I said 'you could maybe argue' for the 97-02 Wings, and you'll never know how much it pains me to say that as an Avs fan! I did point out that the Oilers 5 in 7 and Red Wings 4 in 6 are dynasty teams. If you want the full list of those that are officially recognised as dynasties by the NHL and hockey hall of fame:

Ottawa Senators of 1919–27 (4 Stanley Cup championships in 8 years) 1920, 1921, 1923, 1927
Toronto Maple Leafs of 1946–51 (4 Stanley Cups in 5 years) 1947–1949, 1951
Detroit Red Wings of 1949–55 (4 Stanley Cups in 6 years) 1950, 1952, 1954–1955
Montreal Canadiens of 1955–60 (5 consecutive Stanley Cups) 1956–1960
Toronto Maple Leafs of 1962–67 (4 Stanley Cups in 6 years) 1962–1964, 1967
Montreal Canadiens of 1964–69 (4 Stanley Cups in 5 years) 1965–1966, 1968–1969
Montreal Canadiens of 1975–79 (4 consecutive Stanley Cups) 1976–1979
New York Islanders of 1980–84 (4 consecutive Stanley Cups and 19 consecutive playoff series wins) 1980–1984
Edmonton Oilers of 1983–90 (5 Stanley Cups in 7 years) 1984–1985, 1987–1988, 1990

Which is why I said maybe at 3 in 6 the Wings were close. Certainly versus the Senators at 4 in 8. You really only reinforced my point!


That was my intention. Great info, thanks.
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Aug. 26, 2019 at 12:17 p.m.
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From what I'm hearing a lot of Rangers fans think Shesterkin (sp?) is going to be the go to guy for the future, so Georgiev may be surplus to requirements? Makes sense for both teams I'd say if that's the case. Only issue could be the expansion draft for COL with Georgiev but not sure where he will stand by that point or if they can guard him a little.


Shesterkin is the goalie of the future for the Rangers but Georgiev is a future starter for sure
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Georgiev is good, but I can’t see him being the goalie for a dynasty


I think he will be a Mike Smith or Devin Dubnyk type of player. A really good starter maybe 1-2 years of elite play. Rangers have Shesterkin already so Georgiev is expendable
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