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Ripping it down

Created by: capfriendlyaccount
Initial Creation Date: Aug 2, 2019
Published: Aug 27 at 11:14 am
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Team Explanation
Completely unrealistic.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Pettersson, Marcus1$2,000,000
Trades
PIT
  1. Mcleod, Michael
  2. 2020 1st round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Galchenyuk, Alex
PIT
  1. Trocheck, Vincent
  2. Tippett, Owen
  3. Pysyk, Mark
  4. 2020 1st round pick (FLA)
FLA
  1. Malkin, Evgeni
PIT
  1. 2021 1st round pick (DAL)
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Schultz, Justin
PIT
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  2. Thompson, Tage
  3. Luukkonen, Ukko-Pekka
  4. 2022 1st round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Letang, Kris
PIT
  1. Caufield, Cole [Reserve List]
  2. Suzuki, Nick
  3. Mete, Victor
  4. 2021 1st round pick (MTL)
  5. 2022 1st round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Crosby, Sidney
PIT
  1. Rask, Victor
MIN
  1. Johnson, Jack
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PIT
NJD
FLA
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2021
PIT
DAL
MTL
PIT
PIT
DAL
PIT
PIT
PIT
2022
PIT
BUF
MTL
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$62,577,499$132,500$3,775,000$18,922,501
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
FLA
Trocheck, Vincent
$4,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
PIT
Hörnqvist, Patric
$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Kahun, Dominik
$925,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Bjugstad, Nick
$4,100,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
FLA
Tippett, Owen
$863,333
RW
RFA - 3
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
PIT
McCann, Jared
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
PIT
Simon, Dominik
$750,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
MIN
Rask, Victor
$4,000,000
C
UFA - 3
BUF
Thompson, Tage
$925,000
C, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 4
BUF
Ristolainen, Rasmus
$5,400,000
RD
UFA - 3
PIT
Murray, Matt
$3,750,000
G
RFA - 1
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$2,000,000
LD
RFA - 1
PIT
Gudbranson, Erik
$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 2
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
$1,250,000
G
UFA - 3
MTL
Mete, Victor
$748,333
LD
RFA - 1
FLA
Pysyk, Mark
$2,733,333
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
$850,000
D
RFA - 1
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 2

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Aug 27 at 11:16
#1
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Letang, Chucky and Schultz are not worth any of those returns.
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Aug 27 at 11:17
#2
master of coin
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Crosby in a habs sweater. My personal hellscape.
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Aug 27 at 11:29
#3
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GoJetsGo
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Quoting: BSpadaro83
Letang, Chucky and Schultz are not worth any of those returns.


I think there would be teams that move a first for Schultz or Galchenyuk at the deadline.
And you don't think Letang could get a younger dman, a first, and a couple prospects?
Aug 27 at 11:31
#4
Biased Opinion
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Quoting: Big_Euge
Crosby in a habs sweater. My personal hellscape.


Team USA would be worse
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Aug 27 at 11:34
#5
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GoJetsGo
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Quoting: Barbs
Team USA would be worse


True.
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Aug 27 at 11:35
#6
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GoJetsGo
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Quoting: Big_Euge
Crosby in a habs sweater. My personal hellscape.


Lucky for you, this isn't a remotely realistic post. 🙂
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Aug 27 at 11:38
#7
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Posts: 60
Likes: 20
Quoting: capfriendlyaccount
I think there would be teams that move a first for Schultz or Galchenyuk at the deadline.
And you don't think Letang could get a younger dman, a first, and a couple prospects?


Schultz and Chuky at the deadline to whoever sure yeah. and the vaule is right for letang i'm just not sure BUF are close enough to the window to pay now maybe next season though
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Aug 27 at 11:41
#8
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GoJetsGo
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Posts: 500
Likes: 127
Quoting: Levo
Schultz and Chuky at the deadline to whoever sure yeah. and the vaule is right for letang i'm just not sure BUF are close enough to the window to pay now maybe next season though


They were just an easy team to trade him to since they had a defenseman on the block, and I think Pittsburgh would want one coming back if they're trading Letang.
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Aug 27 at 12:03
#9
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Likes: 575
Quoting: capfriendlyaccount
They were just an easy team to trade him to since they had a defenseman on the block, and I think Pittsburgh would want one coming back if they're trading Letang.


I understand the reasoning, but if you look at buffalos roster it doesn't make sense. The hole right now is at center, even if mittelstadt takes a big step, objectively another center has to come from outside the organization (or cozens) to make this a playoff team. Also, a team that finished near the bottom of the league in goals added Marcus Johansson and jimmy vesey, so adding another adult winger to score goals would also be on the short list. the d looks like dahlin and a bunch of upgraded average d. Plus the sabres have gone crazy drafting d the last couple years (I mean they're all lhd, but still). As far as value of the trade goes, letang probably gets a late first from a playoff team and a good prospect, not sure he gets quite this much but the market changes sometimes. Injuries, age, and contract hurt here, but the guy puts up when he's healthy.
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Aug 27 at 12:18
#10
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,751
Likes: 277
Panthers laugh and hang up
Aug 27 at 12:29
#11
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GoJetsGo
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 500
Likes: 127
Quoting: sabres89
I understand the reasoning, but if you look at buffalos roster it doesn't make sense. The hole right now is at center, even if mittelstadt takes a big step, objectively another center has to come from outside the organization (or cozens) to make this a playoff team. Also, a team that finished near the bottom of the league in goals added Marcus Johansson and jimmy vesey, so adding another adult winger to score goals would also be on the short list. the d looks like dahlin and a bunch of upgraded average d. Plus the sabres have gone crazy drafting d the last couple years (I mean they're all lhd, but still). As far as value of the trade goes, letang probably gets a late first from a playoff team and a good prospect, not sure he gets quite this much but the market changes sometimes. Injuries, age, and contract hurt here, but the guy puts up when he's healthy.

This would be the reasoning from your side. I get it though, forwards are the positon of need right now, not defense.
Aug 27 at 2:27
#12
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Posts: 841
Likes: 149
Quoting: capfriendlyaccount
I think there would be teams that move a first for Schultz or Galchenyuk at the deadline.
And you don't think Letang could get a younger dman, a first, and a couple prospects?


Honestly nope. No one is giving you a 1 at the deadline for Chucky rental in the 2020 draft. Think best, like best case scenario, you can see is a similar to Zucc return, conditional 2 & 3 at best.

Dont think you get that return for a Schultz rental either, but its more believable.

If Letang was 2 years younger and not a continual injury risk, value is probably right then, but taking on 3 more years at 7.25m for 50/60 a year, you better be one piece away from winning it all to get that guy.
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Aug 27 at 2:49
#13
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Quoting: BSpadaro83
Honestly nope. No one is giving you a 1 at the deadline for Chucky rental in the 2020 draft. Think best, like best case scenario, you can see is a similar to Zucc return, conditional 2 & 3 at best.

Dont think you get that return for a Schultz rental either, but its more believable.

If Letang was 2 years younger and not a continual injury risk, value is probably right then, but taking on 3 more years at 7.25m for 50/60 a year, you better be one piece away from winning it all to get that guy.


Zucc return is a decent comparable I guess, but the Rangers were super close to getting two firsts in that one, so one (even if it's conditional) is not too far fetched, especially if he's on pace for 50-60 points.
Letang's injury history would concern teams, yeah, but he'd still get a solid return. It depends what you think of the pieces coming back.
And usually when I do a teardown I sell everyone for their highest value, so I get a lot of feedback telling me I oversold everyone... Lol. It's a bad habit.
 
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