Thoughts on these trades Deadline moves

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Created by: CrossFireX33

Team: 2019-20 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 27, 2019

Published: Aug. 27, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

OTT

Street, Ben
2020 6th round pick (NJD)
2022 3rd round pick (NJD)

NJD

Boedker, Mikkel ($1,000,000 retained)

OTT

Honka, Julius [RFA Rights]
2021 2nd round pick (DAL)
2022 5th round pick (DAL)

DAL

OTT

2021 3rd round pick (COL)

Additional Details:

Conditions: becomes a 2021 2nd if Colorado wins the Stanley Cup and Anderson plays in at least 50% of their playoff games

COL

Anderson, Craig

Buyouts

Dion Phaneuf: $729,167
Alexandre Burrows: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Mikkel Boedker: $1,000,000 (25%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
19	$81,500,000	$41,684,999	$0	$4,440,000	$39,815,001

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Brown, Connor $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Anisimov, Artem $4,550,000$4,550,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Ryan, Bobby $7,250,000$7,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3
Duclair, Anthony $1,650,000$1,650,000 LW, RW UFA - 1		White, Colin $4,750,000$4,750,000 C, RW UFA - 6
Tkachuk, Brady $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) LW UFA - 2	Tierney, Chris $2,937,500$2,937,500 C UFA - 1	Veronneau, Max $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW UFA - 1
	Brown, Logan $863,333$863,333 ($710,000$710K) C, LW RFA - 2	Ennis, Tyler $800,000$800,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
	Batherson, Drake $736,666$736,666 ($20,000$20K) RW, LW UFA - 2
	Street, Ben $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Borowiecki, Mark $1,200,000$1,200,000 LD UFA - 1	Zaitsev, Nikita $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 5
Wolanin, Christian $900,000$900,000 LD UFA - 2		Nilsson, Anders $2,600,000$2,600,000 G UFA - 2
Chabot, Thomas $863,333$863,333 ($360,000$360K) LD UFA - 1	DeMelo, Dylan $900,000$900,000 RD UFA - 1
	Jaros, Christian $755,000$755,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		MacArthur, Clarke $4,650,000$4,650,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 1
		Callahan, Ryan $5,800,000$5,800,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
		Gáborík, Marián $4,875,000$4,875,000 RW UFA - 2

Aug. 27, 2019 at 10:25 p.m.

coga16

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0% chance you get that kind of value for Anderson especially from the avs.

You’re in the 4th round conditional 3rd rounder for him a best if a teams desperate, not a 2nd and another pick territory

Aug. 27, 2019 at 10:27 p.m.

CrossFireX33

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Quoting: coga16

0% chance you get that kind of value for Anderson especially from the avs.

Well what do you think he's worth. I was just thinking avs because maybe grubauer is shaky for some of the year and they bring in a backup that pushes him, would a 3rd be better?

Aug. 27, 2019 at 10:29 p.m.

coga16

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Quoting: CrossFireX33

Well what do you think he's worth. I was just thinking avs because maybe grubauer is shaky for some of the year and they bring in a backup that pushes him, would a 3rd be better?

Was just editing my response with what he’s worth, based on what goalies went for and with his hovering around .900 the past 2 seasons. You don’t get much for a declining 35 year old goalie

Example look at Kinkaid, similar stats, younger but both pending ufas. He went for a 5th. That’s why I think Andy could fetch a 4th, better track record despite older

Aug. 27, 2019 at 10:35 p.m.

CrossFireX33

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Quoting: coga16

What do you think about this?

Aug. 27, 2019 at 10:35 p.m.

TheMooterus

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If Pageau has a bounce-back season, and can be sitting at 35+ points by the deadline you may get some value for him, but Dallas has less than no need for Hainsey, and they aren't giving up a Honka, a 2nd, and a 4th for a Pageau that put up a whopping 12-points last season and couldn't stay healthy.

If Pageau is sitting at 35+ points by the deadline, and if the Stars still haven't traded Honka, Dallas would give you Honka and a 2021 4th Round Pick for Pageau. You're not going to get much more for a bottom-6 forward.

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Aug. 27, 2019 at 10:38 p.m.

coga16

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Quoting: CrossFireX33

What do you think about this?

No one is giving up 3rd or 2nd round picks for 35 year old pending ufa back up goalies with hovering .900 sv% that’s just way too much. It’s more of a 4th

Goalies do not fetch value especially on teams who will be selling at the deadline, bad teams rarely have good goalies of value bc if they did, they wouldn’t be bad

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Aug. 27, 2019 at 11:12 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

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Quoting: Heiskanen4Vezina

If Pageau has 35 points at the deadline he could get at least a 3rd and probably more likely a 2nd, he's a center and that adds a lot of value for teams looking to make a long playoff run.

Honka doesn't have much value at this point, maybe by the TDL he'll have more but if he does then Dallas probably just wants to hang onto him.

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Aug. 27, 2019 at 11:54 p.m.

AndrewLadd

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Quoting: Heiskanen4Vezina

I feel like Pageau is one of those players on this site who everyone over values

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Aug. 28, 2019 at 8:24 a.m.

Melnyk_0ut

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Even if the sens retain half of Boedker's salary, they're lucky to get a 4th for him

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