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Short term risk for Marner

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What if he signs this contract and Nylander and Matthews completely out pace him and Tavares. Would Marner be kicking himself if Nylander outscores him in the next 3 years?
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 3:15 p.m.
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As big of a fan of Nylander as Im, I dont think he would outpace Marner. He might get really close tho. Marner wouldnt be kicking himself because he made more money than with longer termed deal.
Aug. 29, 2019 at 3:16 p.m.
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Gotta risk it to get the biscuit.
Still the highest AAV for a bridge deal if I recall
Aug. 29, 2019 at 3:17 p.m.
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As big of a fan of Nylander as Im, I dont think he would outpace Marner. He might get really close tho. Marner wouldnt be kicking himself because he made more money than with longer termed deal.


If Nylander, who is the other high end RW on the team outscores him (I don't think its impossible, I think it is almost a guarantee to happen at 5v5), would that not mean he is the direct comparable on the team? How can Marner demand an elite centre status money level if there is a better winger on the team? Not saying Nylander is better but I think they are way closer to even than Matthews and Marner.
Aug. 29, 2019 at 3:18 p.m.
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Gotta risk it to get the biscuit.
Still the highest AAV for a bridge deal if I recall


Yeah, I'd personally still think this deal is stupid. I think Marner should get no more than 7 on a 3 year deal. If you want close to 10 he has to go to 6 years minimum. That is what I think Dubas wants as well.
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 3:20 p.m.
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If Nylander, who is the other high end RW on the team outscores him (I don't think its impossible, I think it is almost a guarantee to happen at 5v5), would that not mean he is the direct comparable on the team? How can Marner demand an elite centre status money level if there is a better winger on the team? Not saying Nylander is better but I think they are way closer to even than Matthews and Marner.


Logically if that happens he couldn't... but as we have seen from Marner's camp, logic isn't really a negotiating tactic.
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 3:22 p.m.
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Logically if that happens he couldn't... but as we have seen from Marner's camp, logic isn't really a negotiating tactic.


Totally, Ferris is a clown
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 3:23 p.m.
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As big of a fan of Nylander as Im, I dont think he would outpace Marner. He might get really close tho. Marner wouldnt be kicking himself because he made more money than with longer termed deal.


Nylander could out score marner if he played with Matthews or Tavares all year or plays on first pp prior to Tavares marner was a 60 point guy just like nylander
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 3:28 p.m.
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Totally, Ferris is a clown


Honestly he is just trying his best to get his client the most amount of money in the long run.
Its just his transparently low blow tactics that is upsetting most of the Toronto fans.
Aug. 29, 2019 at 3:31 p.m.
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Nylander could out score marner if he played with Matthews or Tavares all year or plays on first pp prior to Tavares marner was a 60 point guy just like nylander


Marner was scoring at above a point a game place in the second half of the year before last. Much of that was from PP points though. Marner and Nylander are both better than 60 point wingers but I think they are far closer than most seem to think.
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 3:33 p.m.
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Honestly he is just trying his best to get his client the most amount of money in the long run.
Its just his transparently low blow tactics that is upsetting most of the Toronto fans.


The whole leaking to the media and showmanship he's using are just garbage. Be a professional, you aren't the rock and this isn't ballers. What pushed me over the edge was when the Leafs leaked their contract offers (3 at under 8, 6 at under 10 and 8 at under 11) and Ferris responded with we want 10.5 x 3. That is just a joke.

I'm almost at the point where I'd say to Mitch to his face, if you want to be a Maple Leaf you need to find a non idiot agent. This has been the circus we wanted to avoid.
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 5:42 p.m.
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
Marner was scoring at above a point a game place in the second half of the year before last. Much of that was from PP points though. Marner and Nylander are both better than 60 point wingers but I think they are far closer than most seem to think.


Definitely better then 60 point players in my eyes my point was exactly what you said nylander and marner not that far apart
 
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