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Another Take on the Backes Dump This Time to Colorado

Created by: OldNYIfan
Team: 2019-20 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 18, 2019
Published: Aug. 29, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Sweeney doesn't lose anyone off the roster, any of Boston's top prospects or a first-round pick.

Question: Can Heinen actually play center? Or do Frederic and Kuraly move up?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$7,142,857
6$4,500,000
Trades
BOS
  1. Helleson, Drew [Reserve List]
  2. 2020 4th round pick (COL)
  3. 2021 4th round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Backes, David
  2. Cehlárik, Peter
  3. Steen, Oskar
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (BOS)
  5. 2021 2nd round pick (BOS)
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$81,500,000$78,452,857$0$3,095,000$3,047,143
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
LW
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UFA - 6
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$6,875,000$6,875,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$6,666,667$6,666,667
RW
UFA - 4
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$450,000$450K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,800,000$2,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
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$1,275,000$1,275,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
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UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$450,000$450K)
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
RD
UFA - 3
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,750,000$2M)
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Aug. 29, 2019 at 4:27 p.m.
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heinen is only a winger. he really isnt a center.
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 4:28 p.m.
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more realistic scenario is heinen moves to first line rw pastrnak drops to 2nd then coyle centers 3rd with god knows who. or they call up 2 kids to play 1st/2nd and 3rd rw.
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 4:29 p.m.
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rather get a 7th rounder in 3759 than giving two prospects/players to get a potential regular NHLer

Just dump his contract, don't try to win the deal lol it's already hard

Don't see COL accepting that, they wouldn't have enough $ then

Also, play Heinen in the top6 and Coyle at 3C and here we go
(Miller is on LTIR but Moore is 7th D? Kampfer?)
Aug. 29, 2019 at 4:33 p.m.
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Quoting: hanson493
heinen is only a winger. he really isnt a center.


Thanks for the info!
Aug. 29, 2019 at 4:34 p.m.
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more realistic scenario is heinen moves to first line rw pastrnak drops to 2nd then coyle centers 3rd with god knows who. or they call up 2 kids to play 1st/2nd and 3rd rw.


Thanks for the ideas!
Aug. 29, 2019 at 4:38 p.m.
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Big cap dump on colorado without giving up any top prospects or 1st round picks. 0% chance this would happen. Marleau needed a first and he only had 1 year left, backes is dead weight you'd have to sweeten the deal by a lot
Aug. 29, 2019 at 4:41 p.m.
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Heinen is 100% a winger. I don't think he actually played any center even going back to his DU days. Really don't see Boston moving Frederic to move Backes. They wouldn't trade Frederic last year when they could acquire Schenn, so I can't see them using him to dump Backes. Steen just came to NA this year after finishing top 10 in scoring in the SHL (at 21yr old) and I imagine they want to get a look at him in Providence. Some think he could be a dark horse to make the Bruins roster this year.

Here's the thing. Sweeney has the assets to move Backes and he has for a few years now. The fact that there have been ZERO legit rumors on Backes, I'm going to guess that moving Backes isn't a huge concern because they have other options. If Backes was really stopping Boston from locking up McAvoy/Carlo, then Backes would have been moved already.

I still think due to his concussion history and recent medial issues that he ends up on LTIR this year and then they'll either move him or buy him out next year.
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 4:46 p.m.
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Quoting: ArakinSkywalker
Big cap dump on colorado without giving up any top prospects or 1st round picks. 0% chance this would happen. Marleau needed a first and he only had 1 year left, backes is dead weight you'd have to sweeten the deal by a lot


Why Marleau and Backes are not comparable has been gone over multiple times. Marleau flat out refused to play for anyone but SJ or TOR. That isn't he case with Backes and Backes also isn't a 35+ contract. From my understanding of the CBA even if you buyout at 35+ contract, the entire cap hit counts against the cap (see CAR team).
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 4:48 p.m.
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Heinen is 100% a winger. I don't think he actually played any center even going back to his DU days. Really don't see Boston moving Frederic to move Backes. They wouldn't trade Frederic last year when they could acquire Schenn, so I can't see them using him to dump Backes. Steen just came to NA this year after finishing top 10 in scoring in the SHL (at 21yr old) and I imagine they want to get a look at him in Providence. Some think he could be a dark horse to make the Bruins roster this year.

Here's the thing. Sweeney has the assets to move Backes and he has for a few years now. The fact that there have been ZERO legit rumors on Backes, I'm going to guess that moving Backes isn't a huge concern because they have other options. If Backes was really stopping Boston from locking up McAvoy/Carlo, then Backes would have been moved already.

I still think due to his concussion history and recent medial issues that he ends up on LTIR this year and then they'll either move him or buy him out next year.


I think this is the year they try and see if bjork can stay healthy or if senyshyn can make the jump. they desperately need some forward prospects to hit though.
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 4:49 p.m.
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Why Marleau and Backes are not comparable has been gone over multiple times. Marleau flat out refused to play for anyone but SJ or TOR. That isn't he case with Backes and Backes also isn't a 35+ contract. From my understanding of the CBA even if you buyout at 35+ contract, the entire cap hit counts against the cap (see CAR team).


It's easy to compare them when age and contract are the same. Marleau if probily the better of the two. Backes was a healthy in the stanley cup finals and is only getting worse. You'd have to give up more than toronto did to get someone to take on that sinking ship
Aug. 29, 2019 at 5:05 p.m.
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Why Marleau and Backes are not comparable has been gone over multiple times. Marleau flat out refused to play for anyone but SJ or TOR. That isn't he case with Backes and Backes also isn't a 35+ contract. From my understanding of the CBA even if you buyout at 35+ contract, the entire cap hit counts against the cap (see CAR team).


A note. The plus 35 only applies when the player signs the contract. previous to his 35th birthday. So in Backes case, he could be bought out causing a reduced cap hit.

Don't think Colorado would be interested in Backes at all. They can barely fit in Rantenan and Backes under the cap this year, but it's next year. Lot of RFAs to be signed. Don't need 6m Backes forcing them to make a trade or two.
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 7:01 p.m.
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Heinen is 100% a winger. I don't think he actually played any center even going back to his DU days. Really don't see Boston moving Frederic to move Backes. They wouldn't trade Frederic last year when they could acquire Schenn, so I can't see them using him to dump Backes. Steen just came to NA this year after finishing top 10 in scoring in the SHL (at 21yr old) and I imagine they want to get a look at him in Providence. Some think he could be a dark horse to make the Bruins roster this year.

Here's the thing. Sweeney has the assets to move Backes and he has for a few years now. The fact that there have been ZERO legit rumors on Backes, I'm going to guess that moving Backes isn't a huge concern because they have other options. If Backes was really stopping Boston from locking up McAvoy/Carlo, then Backes would have been moved already.

I still think due to his concussion history and recent medial issues that he ends up on LTIR this year and then they'll either move him or buy him out next year.


Thanks for the insight!
Aug. 29, 2019 at 7:02 p.m.
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A note. The plus 35 only applies when the player signs the contract. previous to his 35th birthday. So in Backes case, he could be bought out causing a reduced cap hit.

Don't think Colorado would be interested in Backes at all. They can barely fit in Rantenan and Backes under the cap this year, but it's next year. Lot of RFAs to be signed. Don't need 6m Backes forcing them to make a trade or two.


Thanks, pal!

I'm trying to learn a little about Boston.
Aug. 29, 2019 at 8:53 p.m.
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A note. The plus 35 only applies when the player signs the contract. previous to his 35th birthday. So in Backes case, he could be bought out causing a reduced cap hit.

Don't think Colorado would be interested in Backes at all. They can barely fit in Rantenan and Backes under the cap this year, but it's next year. Lot of RFAs to be signed. Don't need 6m Backes forcing them to make a trade or two.


Right, Marleau was signed when he was 35 so his full cap hit is against CAR after the buyout. That's what my point was.
Aug. 30, 2019 at 4:55 a.m.
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Colorado would have to move a number of players to make this work, and aren't getting anywhere near enough back. IF they moved some cap themselves to be able to take Backes, the only asset Boston have that Colorado are likely to be interested in alongside Backes is one of the currently unsigned D, and Boston are unlikely to move one of those as it's the main reason they want the cap space.
 
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