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Marner should take the 6 year deal

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Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 29, 2019
Published: Aug. 29, 2019
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22 man roster, as Dubas said he will not run a 23 man roster this year. Matthews and Nylander's contracts will be done the same year, then Tavares/Marner the year after. Regardless this would give them a 5 year window to get'r done.
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 5:08 p.m.
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Add some $100K

Nice #CeciOnFirstPairing
Need Harpur up
Aug. 29, 2019 at 5:20 p.m.
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How long until a bunch of non Leaf fans jump on here and say a 6 year deal will be at least 11.5 likely over 12.
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 5:26 p.m.
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now if only you can convince paul that this is reasonable. Good luck with that.
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 5:27 p.m.
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10m X 6 for Marner makes too much sense. With Hyman on LTIR might be able to squeeze in 23 man roster during part of the season.
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 5:28 p.m.
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A 6 year deal will be at least 11.5 likely over 12.
Aug. 29, 2019 at 5:30 p.m.
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
How long until a bunch of non Leaf fans jump on here and say a 6 year deal will be at least 11.5 likely over 12.


Yes! This is such an interesting off season with every team's big RFA holding on to dreams of way more than they've been offered... but why would the teams cough it up? Never before have RFAs gotten these kinda dollars. Ask Pastrnak, who recently said how incredible it is to be making such huge $7 million a year playing hockey...
Aug. 29, 2019 at 5:30 p.m.
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Quoting: SAR
A 6 year deal will be at least 11.5 likely over 12.


Hahaha hahahaha, that was well done
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 5:34 p.m.
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
How long until a bunch of non Leaf fans jump on here and say a 6 year deal will be at least 11.5 likely over 12.


He already turned down 3x10. Why would he take 6x10?
Aug. 29, 2019 at 5:40 p.m.
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Did Dubas say that he was not planning on using a 23 man roster this year? Strange thing to say while signing so many borderline NHLers. When was that? I guess Gauthier, Petan, Wilson, and others will get used to the Marlies, because Shore, Aberg, Agostino should definitely be ahead on the list.
Aug. 29, 2019 at 5:42 p.m.
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He already turned down 3x10. Why would he take 6x10?


That's funny because he used a 3x10 to counter an 8x11 offer and the Leafs are the ones who walked away from that...
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 5:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Jiannuccilli
He already turned down 3x10. Why would he take 6x10?


This just in: this guy Jiannuccilli is an *insider* with ears everywhere.
Trust him. Everyone does
Aug. 29, 2019 at 5:46 p.m.
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That's funny because he used a 3x10 to counter an 8x11 offer and the Leafs are the ones who walked away from that...


Alright I got it backwards then. Point still stands, if he counters with 3x10, why would he do 6x10?
Aug. 29, 2019 at 5:47 p.m.
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This just in: this guy Jiannuccilli is an *insider* with ears everywhere.
Trust him. Everyone does


I got it backwards, his camp wanted 3x10 and leafs rejected. But point still stands, if he wants 3x10, why would he take 6x10?
Aug. 29, 2019 at 5:52 p.m.
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I can tell you with certainty that to date, the Leafs have not put together any offer on any amount of term that has an AAV at or above $10 million.
Aug. 29, 2019 at 5:55 p.m.
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I got it backwards, his camp wanted 3x10 and leafs rejected. But point still stands, if he wants 3x10, why would he take 6x10?


Because it beats 450k x 1 in the Swiss league. If marner wants to play with the leafs he will take a reasonable offer. Ferris pulled the exact same garbage with Anderson and Athanasiou. They will come to an agreement. Dubas is not going to start dismantling his team to overpay marner.
Aug. 29, 2019 at 6:12 p.m.
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Marner isn’t worth 8.5M if you really look into it. The dynamics of his game is consistently reliant on Tavares. He is also a liability on Defense. What he wants and what he should get is quite the big difference. He wants 11M for 3 Years via Lebrun. Which is preposterous but whatever.
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 6:28 p.m.
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Quoting: SAR
A 6 year deal will be at least 11.5 likely over 12.


Nice
Aug. 29, 2019 at 6:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Jiannuccilli
He already turned down 3x10. Why would he take 6x10?


That is not correct, the Leafs have tabled 3 deals apparently 3xjust under 8, 6 at just under 10 and 8 at just under 11. Ferris countered with 3x10 which the Leafs obviously did not accept.
Aug. 29, 2019 at 6:31 p.m.
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Alright I got it backwards then. Point still stands, if he counters with 3x10, why would he do 6x10?


Because he isn't going to get his way.
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 6:32 p.m.
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I can tell you with certainty that to date, the Leafs have not put together any offer on any amount of term that has an AAV at or above $10 million.


Reportedly they have offered an 8 year deal at just under 11 per.
Aug. 29, 2019 at 6:33 p.m.
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Because he isn't going to get his way.


Says who?
Aug. 29, 2019 at 6:35 p.m.
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Says who?


Dubas and reality. Ferris has done this twice already and lost both times. Asking for a lot more than a player is worth isn't a smart tactic. It's not the 90's when the Bobby Holik's of the world can say I want 9 million and rich teams would just climb over themselves to get him signed. It's a cap world, you have to be smart, Ferris doesn't seem to understand that.
Aug. 29, 2019 at 6:40 p.m.
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
Dubas and reality. Ferris has done this twice already and lost both times. Asking for a lot more than a player is worth isn't a smart tactic. It's not the 90's when the Bobby Holik's of the world can say I want 9 million and rich teams would just climb over themselves to get him signed. It's a cap world, you have to be smart, Ferris doesn't seem to understand that.


One side has to give in eventually. They gave in with nylander, someone out there would offersheet Marner at 10mil
Aug. 29, 2019 at 7:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Jiannuccilli
One side has to give in eventually. They gave in with nylander, someone out there would offersheet Marner at 10mil


Nylander asks for $8.5 x 8 gets $7 x 6, so tell me how Nylander won ?

Marner asks for $11.6 x 5, he'll get marked down too, $9+ x 5 (or 6)
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Aug. 29, 2019 at 7:16 p.m.
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Nylander asks for $8.5 x 8 gets $7 x 6, so tell me how Nylander won ?

Marner asks for $11.6 x 5, he'll get marked down too, $9+ x 5 (or 6)


Going down 1.5mil and 2 years is a lot different than going up by 3 years in term and $0 in AAV
 
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