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Can They Both Stay

Created by: Caps_Man
Team: 2020-21 Washington Capitals
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 2, 2019
Published: Sep. 2, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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DISCLAIMER: This is probably not happening irl. Just want to see what it takes to make it work
Free Agent Signings
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1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$900,000
2$2,250,000
1$700,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$8,500,000
7$10,000,000
1$1,000,000
1$900,000
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Bonus Overage, Likely
1$1,000,000
Trades
WSH
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (ANA)
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (ANA)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$84,000,000$77,620,711$419,749$682,500$6,379,289
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,538,462$9,538,462
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C
UFA - 5
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$5,166,667$5,166,667
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$3,350,000$3,350,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$2,415,000$2,415,000
C
UFA - 3
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$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RW
RFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 2
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$1,375,000$1,375,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
RFA - 3
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$700,000$700,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Bonus Overage, Likely
$1,000,000$1,000,000
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$700,000$700,000
D
UFA
$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Sep. 2, 2019 at 9:39 p.m.
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That Holtby contract...oof.
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Sep. 2, 2019 at 9:40 p.m.
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Quoting: HonestHockeyNYI
That Holtby contract...oof.


i mean its literally the bobrovsky contract which is probably what he'll use as a baseline for his contract
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Sep. 2, 2019 at 9:42 p.m.
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The most that the Caps will have in bonus overages is $82,500. The only player on the roster right now that has a performance bonus is Siegenthaler.
Sep. 2, 2019 at 9:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Rayquaza649
i mean its literally the bobrovsky contract which is probably what he'll use as a baseline for his contract


The only time I'd give a goalie that kind of money is if he's an elite talent.
Sep. 2, 2019 at 9:47 p.m.
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Quoting: HonestHockeyNYI
The only time I'd give a goalie that kind of money is if he's an elite talent.


You telling me Holtby isn't? A Vezina, probably deserved a second one, helped us win a cup, how much more proven do you want him?
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Sep. 2, 2019 at 9:49 p.m.
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Quoting: HonestHockeyNYI
The only time I'd give a goalie that kind of money is if he's an elite talent.


yeah but agents only care about getting the most money for a player and they're going to use a goaltender with similar achievements to holtby so holtby taking less than like $9,000,000 would surprise me
Sep. 3, 2019 at 7:59 a.m.
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Quoting: Rayquaza649
yeah but agents only care about getting the most money for a player and they're going to use a goaltender with similar achievements to holtby so holtby taking less than like $9,000,000 would surprise me


Rational agents care more about getting all their players signed, so they keep getting a little bit of steady income from each one, and letting each one keep achieving more, to earn future contracts. I don't think any agent earning 10% of Holtby's next contract is going to care much if he takes 6Mx8 in WSH vs 7x7 elsewhere. Either way, they get almost $5M, and if the're able to live off their other clients, they invest it all and it grows, and they get ridiculously rich.

The bigger concern in this build: Orlov for two 2nd round picks? Wow. Every team with cap space takes that. Or if there's any worry that they don't, then the team should give Orlov a little bit more power play time this year, and let him "break out" for the 50 points that most defensemen who put up 30 even strength points every year get.
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Sep. 3, 2019 at 9:51 a.m.
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And of course the assumption that Holtby will get a Bobrovsky offer is out there... but last year Holtby was bad enough that no fan of any team wants to trade for him on here. Nobody. Nowhere. Bobrovsky played a basement team up to the playoffs, and that's the last thing Florida saw before Luongo retired and gave them cap space to sign a goalie. Bobrovsky isn't just good. He's good right now, coming off a solid season. Holtby likely puts it all back together this year, but if he plays like he did last year--above average goaltending behind an above average defense that makes and above average rookie like Copley look like Jonathan Quick on his stat line--then the Caps can easily keep Holtby at the same salary if they win on term, and in terms of team identity, that's probably still a good move. You don't see LA or Chicago rushing to get rid of goalies who won them the Cup. Just Pittsburgh, and look how that's working out. smile
 
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