Kings very unlikely to trade Brown for Lehk and 2nd without Alzner. Sure as hell won’t with him.

Sharks reluctantly accept. Vlasic contract will be bad soon. As much as they need him they should do it.

Ducks accept.

I think sharks decline, but if you asked them again in a year they would accept. This year they are going for it all!

Anaheim says deal

Montreal won’t do any of those deal. They have no need to add older players. Past two season they have worked to get younger this is the complete opposite of the team direction.

Kings easily pass. They'd do that trade for Jeff Carter.

Come on all 3 teams accept real quick. This guy never watched a single MTL game, he’s an Oilers fan. Those trades are BRUTAL for MTL

Found the sharks fan

Going in the opposite direction of the league, losing trades, is this Peter Chiarelles burner.....

I did not say they were good trades. But no way Kings accept. On top of which Brown has a 7 team NTC. You don’’t think it’s a coincidence they have him a 7 team NTc and there are 7 Canadian teams do you. Lol.

Lehkonen has more value to Habs then he does actual trade value. Brown is very underated. Alzner kills any deal.

Brown will be 35 in Nov and not so long ago was considered one of the worst contracts in hockey. Kings are rebuilding and they won't trade Brown (The guy the stripped the captaincy of) for a 24 year old who just put up 31 points on mainly the 3rd and 4th line and a 2nd rounder?? (I agree the Alzner addition kills any deal so Im not including him either)

Yeah yeah Brown is just too valuable to the Kings long term plans..............

Ok he rebounded from being one of the worst contracts in the league but man, underrated?

50 goals and 110 points the last 2 years plays 200 foot game and the predominant theory is that he sucks. What would you call it? Kings would have no problem letting him go while his trade value has increased if they were smart. Problem is they still think they are a contenders. If they were in rebuild mode Brown, Quick, Carter, Kovi all would have been moved already. They are all bad contracts at this point but still have value to contending teams.

What about the 5 years previous to that where he scored between 20-30 points? Like I said he's had a Renaissance but the 35 year old won't carry much value at his age.

The kings may not be in a full tear down rebuild where every single player on the roster will be traded but they are absolutely rebuilding for the future in the modern day sense of the word. The can't trade Carter because he won't play for any team he goes to and he's said it publicly. Kovalchuk barely has any value with that albatross contract and despite numerous attempts, no one is biting. Quick is a shadow of his former self, he may still be able to help someone like Buffalo but LAK has to bring down the nostalgia price to what he's actually worth right now.. Brown is the only guy who may actually return some value back but expecting more than Lehkonen and a 2nd is absolutely crazy talk.

I think if anyone has more value to their own team than in trade, its Brown, not Lehkonen.

The 3 years remaining on Browns contract is his albatross.

Kings mismanagement is theirs. ??‍♂️

If they were throwing in the towel 2nd and Lehk would be nice return for him. They aren’t yet. They should be. Maybe they change their mindset at the deadline.

Brown is worth more to the Kings than they would be able to fetch in return by trading him. Therefore he's not going anywhere. He will retire with LA and have his jersey retired and get a statue outside of Staples Center.

Carter has not said that publicly. He actually publicly and forcefully came out against those rumors in his end of season interview, acknowledging that he doesn't have trade protection and affirming that he will play out his contract, preferably in LA, but elsewhere if necessary.

Agreed. I think they are quietly rebuilding/retooling though. Teams seemingly don't want say they are but after last year I don't think they can honestly say to themselves that they are going for it. More like leaving the option open to be surprised rather than shutting it off completely by saying they are rebuilding and tanking.



Agreed.

Disagree with the statue thing though. lol

RE: Carter I think he's trying to save face more than anything. Its rare that it comes out that a player could say he'll retire if he doesn't like where he's being traded to. I think while saying that, he's now scared off every potential suitor including the ones he'd accept being traded to. So I think he's keeping the retire if he doesn't like it statement in his back pocket still, where it should have been all along, when the time is right and makes that decision behind closed doors.

As for publicly, your right it wasn't him saying it publicly. It was the insiders saying it publicly of him.

As per Elliotte Friedman, "the issue in dealing for Carter is that there have been rumblings that if he doesn’t like where he’s traded to, he could just potentially retire.”

As per Bob Mackenzie "He doesn’t have no-trade protection, he loves it in L.A. and would love to stay. If he does get traded somewhere he doesn’t want to go, retirement could be an option for him. That’s why he signed that back-diving contract ­– he’s only leaving $7 million on the table. If he did retire, there is a cap recapture penalty that would hit the LA Kings at $3.75 million in each of the next three years."

The franchise leader in games played and the first Captain to bring the Stanley Cup to LA after 45 years is definitely getting a statue.

MacKenzie first brought up the idea of Carter retiring if traded was in a "wouldn't it be interesting if...." segment showing that Carter had an unofficial NTC if he was willing to hang em up early to veto a trade. At no point did he ever claim that Carter's camp had suggested that he might.

Carter still has $7M remaining on his contract. That's not chump change. He's also only a handful of games away from 1000, a milestone that he specifically mentioned was important to him. He's not going to retire, and he unambiguously said as much.

So Bobby Mac and Friedman brought this up out of the blue themselves without any provoking??? Come on man, you have to read between the lines here. Carter is not going to Ottawa to play out his remaining games on a rebuild team....... And 7M over 3 years at his age is probably not worth the physical toll. There is truth to what his agent probably only hinted at if anything. Yes he never publicly said it, I misspoke before and corrected that it was the insiders who had said it. They gain nothing by starting a rumor that Carter could potentially retire if he doesn't like where he goes. That would be a giant leap on their part and not something they'd be interested in spreading as a segment of what ifs..... This wasn't a "would it be interesting if". This was they heard something to spur them to bring it up type thing. Eventually, it gained enough traction for them to say it, on air.

Its not impossible that Carter and his agent realized that whatever got leaked out hurt his trade stock and as much as he'd love to stay with the Kings, they are very much looking to trade him and since he has no trade protection, he doesn't have much of a say on where he could go but one thing that may kill any traction on a team trading for him. He could easily get his milestone before a trade even happens and when your already a millionaire, making the remaining 12% of your contract in a span of the remaining 27% of the term isn't as enticing. It may not even happen this year. He may just accept his fate for the remainder of the year and then reevaluate and the end of next year.

The rumor came out near the trade deadline on TSN when they were discussing possible trade candidates and Carter's name came up. The "rumblings" that Friedman was reporting on was the discussion resulting from McKenzie's segment. McKenzie never said that Carter's camp said it, and Carter's camp directly refuted the rumor that he would do it. If you'd like to extrapolate that Carter would retire if he's traded, then that's fine, but it's about as credible as an Eklund trade rumor.

Does Friedman sound like the guy to use the phrase "rumblings" if he's simply stating something Mackenzie used in passing? He very carefully dances around answering certain questions directly in order to not come off as spilling the beans on a story. For more than one insider to use it in a story, on air, leads more to the idea that it wasn't just some fun gimmick thing to talk about. They had plenty of things to talk about during the TDL. Inventing a story about how Carter could retire is not something they needed to add to fill their time slots.....

All I know is the insiders aren't your everyday Eklunds. They do their best to preserve as much credibility and integrity as possible because that's what gets them the inside scoops directly from sources. Guys like them don't deal in the "what if's" and "let's imagines" when it comes to actual names. They're talking about people's careers in which they probably have chatted with these players at one time or another in their career. To unprovoked-ly bring up the idea of a players nixing trades by threatening retirement is, IMO at least, not representative of the standards these guys have been holding themselves to, throughout the years.

What i do believe is that players, will say anything to back out, change the perception or to improve their situation, etc. once put in front of the camera. I don't blame them, I'd do the same thing. They gain nothing from being entirely honest 100% of the time. Carter saying he's never said that means absolutely nothing to me. What's he supposed to say? "Yeah I said it, I don't want to play in Ottawa - Its a damn garbage pile over there. I only want to go somewhere like Tampa". It makes perfect sense for him to come out publicly now and say the opposite. He wasn't traded and doesn;t have any trade protection so if he wants to end up going somewhere he wants to go to if LAK decides to move on which it certainly seems so, he's got give those teams a reason again. The threat of retirement went from just that, a threat to backup plan he can keep in his back pocket and used when necessary.