"this is if marner wont take anything less than 10." ?????? So??? Is his contract with Carolina going to any different than what the Leafs were offering? Try to this trade with a signed Marner and you'll find Carolina would be well over the cap.

Carolina would be over the cap and they wouldnt want Ceci.. Teravainen+Pesce for Marner with contract would be fair but I doubt Carolina would want another highly paid star.

ok so we dont send ceci and dont sign gardiner, they they have 10.5 mill in space and they could make more easily.

Marner is Aho just more expensively paid. overpaid.

Interesting idea. Not too sure the Canes will be into the Marner idea though. I like the creativity. It is sounding like Marner will sign 9.5x3 which is still incredibly ridiculously high, but still manageable. They just won't be able to sign Gardiner.

Somehow Pesce has gone from underrated to overrated in a single offseason

NEVER trade a top offensive talent for a defensive defenseman. Franchise suicide.

matthews isnt going anywhere.......tavares is still here nylander is still here, one isnt going to sink us. honestly i would rather move nylander but money doesnt work.