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Arizona Coyotes signed Clayton Keller (8 Years / $7,150,000 AAV)

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Sep 4, 2019 at 1:37
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Clayton Keller has signed a new contract with the Arizona Coyotes.
STANDARD CONTRACT (EXTENSION)
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LENGTH: 8 YEARS
EXPIRY STATUS: UFA
SIGNING TEAM: Arizona CoyotesArizona Coyotes
VALUE: $57,200,000
C.H.% : 8.77
SIGNING DATE: September 4, 2019
SOURCE: @SCGscott
SEASONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY
2020-21$7,150,000$7,150,000$0$3,000,000$2,500,000$5,500,000$5,500,000
2021-22$7,150,000$7,150,000$0$0$7,000,000$7,000,000$7,000,000
2022-23$7,150,000$7,150,000$0$3,000,000$4,500,000$7,500,000$7,500,000
2023-24$7,150,000$7,150,000$0$0$6,000,000$6,000,000$6,000,000
2024-25NTC$7,150,000$7,150,000$0$0$7,000,000$7,000,000$7,000,000
2025-26NTC$7,150,000$7,150,000$0$0$7,000,000$7,000,000$7,000,000
2026-27NMC$7,150,000$7,150,000$0$2,000,000$6,500,000$8,500,000$8,500,000
2027-28NMC$7,150,000$7,150,000$0$2,000,000$6,700,000$8,700,000$8,700,000
TOTAL$57,200,000$57,200,000$0$10,000,000$47,200,000$57,200,000$57,200,000
Sep 4, 2019 at 1:37
#2
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Meh deal now, good deal in a couple of years.
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Sep 4, 2019 at 1:40
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Vrana cookie?
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This makes sense long term.
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Sep 4, 2019 at 1:42
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Tomassss Tatarrrr
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We have a Keller contract right here
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Sep 4, 2019 at 1:42
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Damn 8 years, it’s gonna be alright for the first 2 years but every year after that is low key a steal for the Coyotes. They have hella good youngins and are gonna be scary in the future
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Sep 4, 2019 at 1:42
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That's a lot of money for a guy who has yet to score 40g in the NHL.
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Sep 4, 2019 at 1:44
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god, I'm really enjoying this trend of John Chayka locking up key players long-term. it's veeery satisfying.

as for the dollar amount... eh? the knee-jerk reactions from a lot of hockey stats people on Twitter was incredibly bearish, but the guy's 21. he's got at least a few more years to prove that that contract was warranted. I'm not overly concerned.
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Sep 4, 2019 at 1:45
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That's a risky deal
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Sep 4, 2019 at 1:47
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I actually like this deal if he stays healthy
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Sep 4, 2019 at 1:49
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Dumb trades are easy
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This is just crazy.

57 millions garanted for a guy that hasn't proved anything in the NHL.

How much does Mckinnon makes again?
Sep 4, 2019 at 1:50
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This contract is fitting for a point per game player. Keller is not a p/pg player...yet. I don't like it. How much more would it cost them if he he puts up 80 points next season? Probably less than $1M AAV. If he's a 55-60 point player next season he'd cost considerably less. Probably $5.5M AAV. He only scored 47 points last season! What if he repeats that? Big risk w/ relatively low reward.

J.C. must think Keller is gonna break out big time. He's also betting big on Dvorak, Schmaltz, and Chychrun.
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Sep 4, 2019 at 1:51
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Quoting: Zwui21
Meh deal now, good deal in a couple of years.


Quoting: Kylonetic8
This makes sense long term.


Quoting: TartarSauce90
We have a Keller contract right here


Quoting: Lime
Damn 8 years, it’s gonna be alright for the first 2 years but every year after that is low key a steal for the Coyotes. They have hella good youngins and are gonna be scary in the future


Quoting: tkecanuck341
That's a lot of money for a guy who has yet to score 40g in the NHL.


Quoting: DragonRaptorHybrid
god, I'm really enjoying this trend of John Chayka locking up key players long-term. it's veeery satisfying.

as for the dollar amount... eh? the knee-jerk reactions from a lot of hockey stats people on Twitter was incredibly bearish, but the guy's 21. he's got at least a few more years to prove that that contract was warranted. I'm not overly concerned.


Can someone who watches Keller play please explain why his production dipped so much this year? (14 goals / 47 points in 82 games).

I don't watch him enough to know whether his play regressed ... or he was a victim of circumstance?
Sep 4, 2019 at 1:52
#13
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Edited Sep 4, 2019 at 1:57
Some risk to the deal if he stalls out in the 45 to 55 point range like this last season, but <9% of the cap for a top line offensive player seems like a good way to build a deep team. I imagine his comparable was the Scheifele contract, who happened to break out in year 4 and is now on a great deal. Looks like Chayka is betting on the same. This will be a bargain in a few seasons provided he's consistently over 70 points.
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Sep 4, 2019 at 1:53
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Dom6Yotes
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Quoting: tkecanuck341
That's a lot of money for a guy who has yet to score 40g in the NHL.


There are guys in the NHL that haven’t even put up 60 points yet that are getting payed 7M this contract is fine
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Sep 4, 2019 at 1:54
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He may have been one of the few big RFAs remaining that a bridge would work for both sides, but this has to be a win for the player. Out of all the remaining RFAs that will sign for $6m AAV+ Keller probably has the most to prove.
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Sep 4, 2019 at 1:55
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Could be a steal in the future. But $7.15M for 8 years after having 14 goals, 47 points, and a -21 rating? A little risky.
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Sep 4, 2019 at 1:55
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Quoting: drewjenks
Can someone who watches Keller play please explain why his production dipped so much this year? (14 goals / 47 points in 82 games).

I don't watch him enough to know whether his play regressed ... or he was a victim of circumstance?


His shot selection wasn’t good last year and mentally he was fighting it sometimes was on pace to put up 60+ points after the first 40 games and then he just hit a brick wall
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Sep 4, 2019 at 1:56
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Quoting: CN10
Some risk to the deal if he stalls out in the 45 to 55 point range like this last season, but <9% of the cap for a top line offensive player seems like a good way to build a deep team. This will be a bargain in a few seasons provided he's consistently over 70 points.


That's a big "if". He scored an average of 56 points in his first 2 seasons while playing all 82 games both seasons. 70+ is a big number.
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Sep 4, 2019 at 1:56
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Quoting: drewjenks
Can someone who watches Keller play please explain why his production dipped so much this year? (14 goals / 47 points in 82 games).

I don't watch him enough to know whether his play regressed ... or he was a victim of circumstance?


I haven't watched many ARI games, but my guess is that in his big rookie season he got sheltered minutes on second line, meanwhile last year he had to go up against top lines as he was the guy. Hopefully Kessel arriving helps with that.
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Sep 4, 2019 at 1:57
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Quoting: drewjenks
Can someone who watches Keller play please explain why his production dipped so much this year? (14 goals / 47 points in 82 games).

I don't watch him enough to know whether his play regressed ... or he was a victim of circumstance?
well, context: those 47 points were the highest of anybody on the entire team. so it's not as if the rest of the team was any better. his shooting percentage also dipped kinda hard, from 10.8% to 7%. part of that was that he scored a single power play goal this past year, as opposed to 6 the year before; the Coyotes' PP was noooot great.

*shrug* Keller had a bad year. so do many other players at his age.
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Sep 4, 2019 at 1:58
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Rantanen is next. 5 years, $8m per.
Sep 4, 2019 at 1:58
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Quoting: Brian2016
This contract is fitting for a point per game player. Keller is not a p/pg player...yet. I don't like it. How much more would it cost them if he he puts up 80 points next season? Probably less than $1M AAV. If he's a 55-60 point player next season he'd cost considerably less. Probably $5.5M AAV. He only scored 47 points last season! What if he repeats that? Big risk w/ relatively low reward.

J.C. must think Keller is gonna break out big time. He's also betting big on Dvorak, Schmaltz, and Chychrun.


So if 7M is worth it for a PPG player then why are the PPG RFAs avialable are asking for 10M ?
Sep 4, 2019 at 1:58
#23
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Quoting: DSZ
There are guys in the NHL that haven’t even put up 60 points yet that are getting payed 7M this contract is fine


Who?
Sep 4, 2019 at 1:59
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Dom6Yotes
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Quoting: Brian2016
Who?


Kevin Hayes
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Sep 4, 2019 at 2:01
#25
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Quoting: DSZ
So if 7M is worth it for a PPG player then why are the PPG RFAs avialable are asking for 10M ?


Guys like Marner, Point, and Rantanen are far above p/pg. Also, Keller is a Winger and not great defensively.
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