Quoting: Sebybbq
You don’t understand a single word of what ive said. Carlo won’t become a duncan keith or doughty or hedman. Scoring 30-35 pount a year isnt enough for being a top 2 defenseman. That being said doesn’t mean that playing second pairing defence doesn’t as less impact. Actuallythe difference with a top unit and a second unit is most frequently the Powerplay time. Scoring one goal on a rush doesnt make you a general on the pp. the offensive skill isnt something that couls be learn its instinctive. He will not turn into a 50 point defenseman. But can easily be one of the top nhl shutdown defenseman. Brett pesce is a good example. He is valuable to any member of that defensive squad but he isnt the pp guys that doesnt mean is bad so calm down a minutes and read carefully. Even if you dream of carlo at night being the highly scoring defenseman you think he is that not realistic.
Does the hawks win 3 cup without haljmarson the answers is clear its no. But does it make him a premiere defenseman no. Same as carlo. Edmunston in st louis those are the con’arable
wow. I'm kind of amazed that you had the balls to say that I don't understand what you're saying when you made the following assumptions out of thin air.
1. I think Carlo will become a hedman, doughty, or keith?
2. I think Carlo scoring a short handed goal makes him a power play general?
3. I think he'll turn into a 50 point guy?
Did you really just tell me to read carefully? After that interpretation? seriously?
Anywho, few issues here. First is that you think the offense end is purely instinctive and can't be learned or whatever. Actually in a weird way I somewhat agree with you, the issue is, he's shown the instinct! He's there! He has shown a profound amount of jitters with the puck when he gets to the offensive areas, but that can be outgrown, and it kind of looked like that happened in the latter half of the season and the playoffs.
Here's the big one. Scoring 30-35 points a year isn't enough for being a top two. Well, that's bonkers. Let's just take a look for a second at how many d men scored 35 points last year. Ah yes, 41. So that's kind of out the window right? If we weren't sure, there are a ton of guys in that 41 that aren't top pairing d men because they're friggin liablities in their own end. Let's take a look at some of them for kicks. Faulk, Dunn, Ghost, Hamilton, Severson, Risto, Krug, Barrie, Gustaffson. I think those are just the guys taht no one could really argue is a top pair guy. So now we're somewhere around 30 guys in the league that meets your lofty threshold? Now let's take a look at some of the guys that I think every hockey fan that knows a thing or two would agree are top pair talents. You mentioned Pesce, he's one. Heiskanen, Weber, maybe Hanifin, Subban, Slavin (freaking SLAVIN, he's a legit number one d, top ten in the league for sure), Hampus Lindholm, and my personal favorite....boy if you don't think this guy is a top pairing d man in the NHL, I don't know if there's any helping you: Colton Parayko. 28 points. I think Carlo can get to a Parayko like level of production. That's not a stretch in the slightest, and that would certainly place his ceiling (your term, not mine) above a second pairing d man.
Cheers.