not mad, actually laughing. the whole office is laughing with me.

People put way, way too much emphasis on point totals! That's the problem. I still think NSH, SJS, and CGY are better and I think I can make a case for DAL, too.

I would agree with all of this, outside of the DAL part.

Who said you were mad? I know I didn't lol. All you've tried to do this whole time is insult me (which you've failed miserably at), instead of trying to discuss why I'm wrong. Meanwhile I've been able to have a nice civil conversation with @Brian2016 on the topic.

"We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore"

-Independence Day

yes it can. https://www.nhl.com/hurricanes/video/slavins-slick-shootout-tally/t-277437094/c-53276903

Which one do you mean, Gardiner's or Canes' defense?

On paper. Let them play first.

Where were you chevy. Where??

Look at that defence lol ... Faulk is gone.

I'm surprised how uneven the votes are ... I voted yes but it is questionable.

I'm really pissed.

And sad..

Good contract as long as Gardiner's body holds up. I term is risky, but great AAV

my post was referring to you.

glad you're having a nice civil conversation though.



despite his ability to make nonsensical mistakes at the worst time, gardiner is a great player. he should be getting 2 million more on this deal.

When he wasn't signed by mid-July the number of teams that still had the available cap space was greatly reduced. He probably could've gotten at least $5 AAV if he'd signed on July 1st. The injury and poor clutch performances certainly didn't help, but the market simply dried up. Bad agent?

How about Faulk to Winnipeg for Perreault straight up? Would that be enough for Carolina? Maybe Faulk to EDM for Puljujarvi plus a pick and/or prospect and CAR retains salary to make the numbers work?

This keeps getting better and better lol. You really think your comment got me mad? Not even close lol. Here's the real story...

-Your a Toronto fans and think Gardiner is a great player

-I upset you because I pointed out his piss poor defense

-Because you cant denfed his defense you just try and take a shot using a weak, old and pathetic comeback

-from there you still cant defend him and instead keep trying to throw insults (again very poorly...almost like Gardiners defense)

At no point was I ever mad and I truly did laugh at my desk. You're more than welcome to think what you want, but I couldn't care less at this point. See it's people like you that ruin sites like CF and HF because you act like a child when someone says something you don't like.

With that I'm done. I'm going to do the same thing I do with all the other useless posters on here and add you to the ignore list (greatest feature of CF).

I like this deal. 4.05 x 4 is a STEAL of a contract for Jake Gardiner. He can put up 40-50 points and is a Corsi God, although he does try things in his own zone that make you want to gouge your eyes out. The problem is he may need back surgery going into the season, which means a HUGE RISK.

Gardiners Corsi is amazing what are you on?

Sorry, but I don't get excited about Corsi like others. What I do know is that when the games matter (the playoffs) Gardiner is a no show and Boston has exploited his poor defensive play the last two years.

Yep, he was looking for 6m. Might have been his one time injury last season that teams were leery of in July. But really teams have spent all their cap. Gardiner was left with very few options. Just the like the RFAs, might be just two teams that have the cap to make the offer sheet, so the RFAs have little leverage, except to without their services.

yeah he waited when he really shouldn't have.



gonna show how not mad i am by going on a rant and blocking you.

Edmonton doesnt have the cap space for Faulk. Such a trade would require Carolina, or a 3rd team, to take a contract like Russel and/or Benning. But then they are likely going to have to give up even more picks/prospects. All for Faulk? Someone Carolina doesnt think is good enough for them? Not worth it.

No way straight up for car. They say no. Perreault doesn’t hold too much value. Maybe perreault, a b+ prospect and a 2nd could do it?. Even then I would like to see what we have in our d-corps in WPG before upgrading.

Hey buddy, just chill out!
Everyone, who watches a lot of hockey here knows, that Gardiner's have some leaks in the defensive part of his game
If somebody thinks the opposite, you can't ever convince him
The contract is still good though, no question about that. If they sign him for 6 million $, i would vote no. But for 4 million $, it's a good contract.

Anyways, i have a legit question to you:

What's your honest opinion on the defense next year?
Come playoff time, will you be wondering a little bit about how you going to beat our D? I need an outsider opinion, cause im way too biased...(i already put my team in the cup finals, before season started... hahaha ...)
We play a lot vs your team over the years, so you must have an idea how it feels to play vs our defense