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are deals fair question mark

Created by: Pete
Initial Creation Date: Sep 7, 2019
Published: Sep 7, 2019 at 12:11
Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers
Trades
EDM
  1. Shore, Devin
ANA
  1. Benning, Matthew
EDM
  1. Gauthier, Julien
  2. Forsberg, Anton
CAR
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Reserve List]
  2. Jurco, Tomas
Buyouts
  • Andrej Sekera: $2,500,000
  • Benoit Pouliot: $1,333,333
  • Eric Gryba: $300,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
  • Sam Gagner: $315,000 (10%)
Buried
  • Sam Gagner: $1,760,000 ($2,835,000)
  • Brandon Manning: $1,175,000 ($2,250,000)
  • Zack Kassian: $875,000 ($1,950,000)
  • Kyle Brodziak: $75,000 ($1,150,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
2021
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
PIT
EDM
2022
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$77,718,832$0$2,227,500$3,781,168
Left WingCenterRight Wing
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 6
EDM
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 7
EDM
Neal, James
$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
ANA
Shore, Devin
$1,541,000
LW, C, RW
RFA - 1
EDM
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$6,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
EDM
Chiasson, Alex
$2,150,000
RW
UFA - 2
EDM
Benson, Tyler
$808,333
LW
RFA - 2
EDM
Marody, Cooper
$925,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
CAR
Gauthier, Julien
$863,333
RW
RFA - 2
EDM
Granlund, Markus
$1,300,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 1
EDM
Khaira, Jujhar
$1,200,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
EDM
Archibald, Josh
$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
EDM
Cave, Colby
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
EDM
Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 4
EDM
Larsson, Adam
$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 2
EDM
Koskinen, Mikko
$4,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
EDM
Nurse, Darnell
$3,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
EDM
Bouchard, Evan
$894,167
RD
RFA - 4
EDM
Smith, Mike
$2,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
EDM
Russell, Kris
$4,000,000
LD/RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
EDM
Persson, Joel
$1,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
CAR
Forsberg, Anton
$775,000
G
UFA - 1
EDM
Jones, Caleb
$720,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Sep 7, 2019 at 12:13
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nickk
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Like the trade for Carolina tbh.
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Sep 7, 2019 at 12:15
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Hey Beter
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Where's Forsberg expected to play? Starrett and Skinner are already penciled the AHL time and it's likely that Wells is going to have to be loaned to another AHL team to get minutes.

Edmonton could get a lot more for Benning than another overpaid 4th line forward.
Sep 7, 2019 at 12:28
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Pete
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 570
Likes: 36
Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Where's Forsberg expected to play? Starrett and Skinner are already penciled the AHL time and it's likely that Wells is going to have to be loaned to another AHL team to get minutes.

Edmonton could get a lot more for Benning than another overpaid 4th line forward.


Forsberg will play Nhl as Koskinen`s backup. Don't expect Smith staying healthy and in top form. Starrett and Skinner are not ready yet. Edmonton will make use of 3 goalies the coming season - that's how I see the situation.
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Sep 7, 2019 at 2:28
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First NY Then LA
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Anaheim says Sure, er, Shore.
Sep 7, 2019 at 2:29
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First NY Then LA
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
Where's Forsberg expected to play? Starrett and Skinner are already penciled the AHL time and it's likely that Wells is going to have to be loaned to another AHL team to get minutes.

Edmonton could get a lot more for Benning than another overpaid 4th line forward.


If you don't like Shore, how about a third-rounder?
Sep 7, 2019 at 6:51
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Hey Beter
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 2,895
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Quoting: Pete
Forsberg will play Nhl as Koskinen`s backup. Don't expect Smith staying healthy and in top form. Starrett and Skinner are not ready yet. Edmonton will make use of 3 goalies the coming season - that's how I see the situation.


If (read: when) Smith goes down to injury, Frosberg's the backup. Fine. What about when Smith isn't hurt? Koskinen and Smith have contracts that must be honoured at the NHL level, then we're back to the same question I've posed.

I recall a time where Edmonton ran a trio of Khabibulin, Dubnyk, and Deslauriers one season due to neither young goaltender being waivers exempt at the time but both having a degree of potential. That experiment failed miserably: there isn't enough icetime between scratches for the third guy to justify having a goaltender park his ass in the booth for the dozen or so times that he's needed. It makes a lot more sense for Starrett's development to see the odd game if one of Koskinen or Smith get hurt. The "starter" at that point ends up with an increased workload unless Shane proves ready. Carrying a third goaltender - until there's a legitimate scientific merger between goaltender usage, practice and quality of icetime, and load management - doesn't benefit teams terribly often.

Give it a few years until the sports science behind it (even better conditioning, goaltender-specific physiologic analytics, etc) catches up, and I don't doubt the possibility of teams consistently running three goaltenders a season.

Quoting: OldNYIfan
If you don't like Shore, how about a third-rounder?


There's a market for players like Benning and I think more than a 3rd Round Pick could be had. Hoping his numbers get a bit juiced alongside Klefbom with more minutes and he can be flipped for a 2nd Round Pick plus.
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