Possible Marner trades

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Created by: RangerWall92

Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 7, 2019

Published: Sep. 7, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

TOR

Manson, Josh
Rakell, Rickard
2020 3rd round pick (ANA)

ANA

TOR

Hinostroza, Vinnie
Keller, Clayton
2021 4th round pick (PIT)

ARI

TOR

Carlo, Brandon [RFA Rights]
DeBrusk, Jake
2020 1st round pick (BOS)

BOS

TOR

Montour, Brandon
Reinhart, Sam
2020 2nd round pick (BUF)

BUF

TOR

Andersson, Rasmus
Lindholm, Elias
2020 1st round pick (CGY)
2020 3rd round pick (CGY)

CGY

TOR

Foegele, Warren
Pesce, Brett
2020 1st round pick (TOR)

CAR

TOR

Boqvist, Adam
Strome, Dylan
2020 5th round pick (CHI)
2021 2nd round pick (CHI)

CHI

TOR

Makar, Cale
2020 1st round pick (COL)

COL

TOR

Anderson, Josh
Dubois, Pierre-Luc
2021 3rd round pick (CBJ)

CBJ

10.

TOR

Heiskanen, Miro
Hintz, Roope
2020 4th round pick (DAL)

DAL

11.

TOR

Athanasiou, Andreas
Hronek, Filip
2020 1st round pick (DET)

DET

12.

TOR

Klefbom, Oscar
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
2020 1st round pick (EDM)
2020 2nd round pick (EDM)

EDM

13.

TOR

Ekblad, Aaron
2020 2nd round pick (FLA)

FLA

14.

TOR

Toffoli, Tyler
2020 1st round pick (LAK)
2021 1st round pick (LAK)

LAK

15.

TOR

Dumba, Matt
2021 3rd round pick (MIN)

MIN

16.

TOR

Domi, Max
Lehkonen, Artturi
2020 1st round pick (MTL)
2020 3rd round pick (MTL)

MTL

17.

TOR

Arvidsson, Viktor
Fabbro, Dante
2020 2nd round pick (NJD)

NSH

18.

TOR

Hall, Taylor

NJD

19.

TOR

Barzal, Mathew
2020 3rd round pick (NYI)

NYI

20.

TOR

Deangelo, Anthony [RFA Rights]
Zibanejad, Mika
2020 3rd round pick (DAL)

NYR

21.

TOR

DeMelo, Dylan
Tierney, Chris
2020 1st round pick (SJS)
2020 1st round pick (OTT)

OTT

22.

TOR

Konecny, Travis [RFA Rights]
Provorov, Ivan [RFA Rights]
2021 3rd round pick (PHI)

PHI

23.

TOR

Galchenyuk, Alex
McCann, Jared
2020 1st round pick (PIT)
2021 2nd round pick (PIT)

PIT

24.

TOR

Hertl, Tomas
Sörensen, Marcus
2020 3rd round pick (PHI)
2021 1st round pick (SJS)

SJS

25.

TOR

Parayko, Colton
Thomas, Robert
2020 2nd round pick (STL)

STL

26.

TOR

Johnson, Tyler
Palat, Ondrej
2020 1st round pick (TBL)
2020 3rd round pick (TBL)

TBL

27.

TOR

Horvat, Bo
Virtanen, Jake
2020 2nd round pick (VAN)

VAN

28.

TOR

Glass, Cody
2020 1st round pick (VGK)
2020 2nd round pick (VGK)

VGK

29.

TOR

Orlov, Dmitry
Vrána, Jakub
2020 1st round pick (WSH)
2021 2nd round pick (WSH)

WSH

30.

TOR

Connor, Kyle [RFA Rights]
2020 2nd round pick (WPG)
2020 3rd round pick (WPG)

WPG

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
75	$81,500,000	$214,202,334	$0	$14,910,000	-$132,702,334

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Johnsson, Andreas $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Matthews, Auston $11,634,000$11,634,000 C UFA - 5	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 5
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 6	Horton, Nathan $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Mikheyev, Ilya $925,000$925,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 4	Clarkson, David $5,250,000$5,250,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Petan, Nicolas $775,000$775,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2	Shore, Nick $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1	Kapanen, Kasperi $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 3
Agostino, Kenny $737,500$737,500 LW UFA - 2	Spezza, Jason $700,000$700,000 C, RW NTC UFA - 1	Moore, Trevor $775,000$775,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
DeBrusk, Jake $863,333$863,333 ($450,000$450K) RW, LW UFA - 1	Gauthier, Frédérik $675,000$675,000 C UFA - 1	Åberg, Pontus $700,000$700,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Foegele, Warren $746,667$746,667 ($20,000$20K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Rakell, Rickard $2,463,139$2,463,139 RW, LW UFA - 3	Hinostroza, Vinnie $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Lehkonen, Artturi $2,400,000$2,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Strome, Dylan $863,333$863,333 ($2,475,000$2M) C UFA - 1	Keller, Clayton $885,833$885,833 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1
Hall, Taylor $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW UFA - 1	Dubois, Pierre-Luc $894,166$894,166 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 1	Reinhart, Sam $3,650,000$3,650,000 RW UFA - 1
Galchenyuk, Alex $4,900,000$4,900,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 1	Hintz, Roope $811,667$811,667 C UFA - 1	Lindholm, Elias $4,850,000$4,850,000 C, RW UFA - 5
McCann, Jared $1,250,000$1,250,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Athanasiou, Andreas $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh $1,850,000$1,850,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Sörensen, Marcus $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW, C UFA - 2	Toffoli, Tyler $4,600,000$4,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Johnson, Tyler $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, C, LW NTC UFA - 5	Domi, Max $3,150,000$3,150,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Arvidsson, Viktor $4,250,000$4,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 5
Vrána, Jakub $3,350,000$3,350,000 LW UFA - 2	Barzal, Mathew $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) C, RW UFA - 1	Thomas, Robert $894,166$894,166 ($425,000$425K) C, RW UFA - 2
	Zibanejad, Mika $5,350,000$5,350,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Palat, Ondrej $5,300,000$5,300,000 LW, RW NTC UFA - 3
	Tierney, Chris $2,937,500$2,937,500 C UFA - 1	Virtanen, Jake $1,250,000$1,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
	Hertl, Tomas $5,625,000$5,625,000 C UFA - 3
	Horvat, Bo $4,125,000$4,125,000 C UFA - 4
	Glass, Cody $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) C, RW RFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD UFA - 3	Ceci, Cody $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA - 1	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Muzzin, Jake $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD UFA - 1	Barrie, Tyson $2,750,000$2,750,000 RD UFA - 1	Hutchinson, Michael $700,000$700,000 G UFA - 1
Dermott, Travis $863,333$863,333 LD/RD UFA - 1	Schmaltz, Jordan $700,000$700,000 RD UFA - 1
Harpur, Ben $725,000$725,000 LD UFA - 1	Holl, Justin $675,000$675,000 RD UFA - 1
Marincin, Martin $700,000$700,000 LD UFA - 1
Manson, Josh $2,050,000$2,050,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3
Montour, Brandon $3,387,500$3,387,500 RD UFA - 1
Andersson, Rasmus $755,833$755,833 ($57,500$58K) RD UFA - 1
Pesce, Brett $4,025,000$4,025,000 RD UFA - 5
Boqvist, Adam $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 3
Makar, Cale $880,833$880,833 ($2,500,000$2M) RD UFA - 2
Heiskanen, Miro $894,166$894,166 ($2,500,000$2M) LD/RD UFA - 2
Hronek, Filip $714,166$714,166 ($182,500$182K) RD RFA - 2
Klefbom, Oscar $4,167,000$4,167,000 LD UFA - 4
Ekblad, Aaron $7,500,000$7,500,000 RD UFA - 6
Dumba, Matt $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD UFA - 4
Fabbro, Dante $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RD UFA - 2
DeMelo, Dylan $900,000$900,000 RD UFA - 1
Parayko, Colton $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD UFA - 3
Orlov, Dmitry $1,275,000$1,275,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4

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CapFriendly.com Armchair-GM User-Generated Roster

FORWARDS (49)
Right Wing: William Nylander ($6,962,366) - Nathan Horton ($5,300,000) - David Clarkson ($5,250,000) - Kasperi Kapanen ($3,200,000) - Trevor Moore ($775,000) - Pontus Åberg ($700,000) - Vinnie Hinostroza ($1,500,000) - Clayton Keller ($885,833) - Sam Reinhart ($3,650,000) - Elias Lindholm ($4,850,000) - Josh Anderson ($1,850,000) - Tyler Toffoli ($4,600,000) - Viktor Arvidsson ($4,250,000) - Robert Thomas ($894,166) - Ondrej Palat ($5,300,000) - Jake Virtanen ($1,250,000)
Centre: Auston Matthews ($11,634,000) - John Tavares ($11,000,000) - Alexander Kerfoot ($3,500,000) - Nick Shore ($750,000) - Jason Spezza ($700,000) - Frédérik Gauthier ($675,000) - Rickard Rakell ($2,463,139) - Dylan Strome ($863,333) - Pierre-Luc Dubois ($894,166) - Roope Hintz ($811,667) - Andreas Athanasiou ($3,000,000) - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins ($6,000,000) - Max Domi ($3,150,000) - Mathew Barzal ($863,333) - Mika Zibanejad ($5,350,000) - Chris Tierney ($2,937,500) - Tomas Hertl ($5,625,000) - Bo Horvat ($4,125,000) - Cody Glass ($863,333)
Left Wing: Andreas Johnsson ($3,400,000) - Zach Hyman ($2,250,000) - Ilya Mikheyev ($925,000) - Nicolas Petan ($775,000) - Kenny Agostino ($737,500) - Jake DeBrusk ($863,333) - Warren Foegele ($746,667) - Artturi Lehkonen ($2,400,000) - Taylor Hall ($3,000,000) - Alex Galchenyuk ($4,900,000) - Jared McCann ($1,250,000) - Marcus Sörensen ($1,500,000) - Tyler Johnson ($5,000,000) - Jakub Vrána ($3,350,000)

DEFENSE (24)
Right: Cody Ceci ($4,500,000) - Tyson Barrie ($2,750,000) - Jordan Schmaltz ($700,000) - Justin Holl ($675,000)
Left: Morgan Rielly ($5,000,000) - Jake Muzzin ($4,000,000) - Travis Dermott ($863,333) - Ben Harpur ($725,000) - Martin Marincin ($700,000) - Josh Manson ($2,050,000) - Brandon Montour ($3,387,500) - Rasmus Andersson ($755,833) - Brett Pesce ($4,025,000) - Adam Boqvist ($894,167) - Cale Makar ($880,833) - Miro Heiskanen ($894,166) - Filip Hronek ($714,166) - Oscar Klefbom ($4,167,000) - Aaron Ekblad ($7,500,000) - Matt Dumba ($6,000,000) - Dante Fabbro ($925,000) - Dylan DeMelo ($900,000) - Colton Parayko ($5,500,000) - Dmitry Orlov ($1,275,000)

GOALTENDER (2)
Frederik Andersen ($5,000,000) - Michael Hutchinson ($700,000)

BUYOUTS (1)
Mikhail Grabovski ($0)

RETAINED SALARY TRANSACTIONS (1)
Phil Kessel ($1,200,000)

DETAILS
Roster Size: 75
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Cap Hit: $214,202,334
Cap Space: -$132,702,334

Sep. 7, 2019 at 6:28 p.m.

McFaksaGOAT

Joined: Sep. 2018

Posts: 2,234

Likes: 856

LMFAO I’ve got some bad news for you pal...

Sep. 7, 2019 at 6:29 p.m.

McFaksaGOAT

Joined: Sep. 2018

Posts: 2,234

Likes: 856

Also on a side note, Dallas wouldn’t do Heiskanen for Marner alone

Sep. 7, 2019 at 6:34 p.m.

MJC13

Joined: Jul. 2019

Posts: 392

Likes: 286

So the Caps can give up Orlov and Vrana for Marner, but the Bruins have to give up Debrusk and McAvoy?

Sep. 7, 2019 at 6:41 p.m.

CrossFireX33

Joined: Apr. 2019

Posts: 995

Likes: 517

I'm not sure if there's a single time you didn't overvalue him

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Sep. 7, 2019 at 6:43 p.m.

sabres89

Joined: Feb. 2017

Posts: 8,223

Likes: 6,214

Sabres take this and run.

Sep. 7, 2019 at 6:51 p.m.

TheFlamingC

Joined: Apr. 2019

Posts: 3,446

Likes: 1,805

Edited Sep. 7, 2019 at 6:59 p.m.

Finally, a player I'd be willing to move Andersson for. Make it Ras, Lindholm and a 3rd for Marner agreed to a reasonable contract with us.

Sep. 7, 2019 at 6:59 p.m.

sabres89

Joined: Feb. 2017

Posts: 8,223

Likes: 6,214

Quoting: CrossFireX33

I'm not sure if there's a single time you didn't overvalue him

I may over value him too, the only ones that are terrible to me are the Dallas and Colorado ones. Edmonton is giving up a lot too. I think marner is a difference maker, even playing the wing.

Sep. 7, 2019 at 7:40 p.m.

justaBoss

What in tarnation

Joined: Oct. 2017

Posts: 32,709

Likes: 31,449

The package moving from BOS is twice as valuable as the package moving from ARI.

Try to get the values even slightly close to even.

Sep. 7, 2019 at 7:44 p.m.

Ajp_18

Joined: Mar. 2018

Posts: 9,851

Likes: 6,441

Columbus laughed and hangs up... PLD isn’t getting moved unless a 1st line center is coming back.

Sep. 7, 2019 at 8:00 p.m.

#10

RoyalBlueSabres

Joined: Jun. 2019

Posts: 1,878

Likes: 974

Quoting: sabres89

Sabres take this and run.

I dont think so. How much of an upgrade is mariner to reinhart. Puts up more points in a more explosive offense better I guess. But now you lose part of your D rebuild and have to spend 2 or 3 more mil on a winger. I wouldnt do it if I was Buff

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Sep. 7, 2019 at 9:46 p.m.

#11

ShockingReality

Joined: Nov. 2018

Posts: 99

Likes: 17

Unfortunately I see many holes, the OTT one in particular, a middle 6 center (which the leafs dont even need) and an OK defenseman equals a extremely talented, 90 point scorer? Ottawa would most certainly be coughing up Brannstrom and White/Batherson for that deal to be close. The NYR one doesn't fit TOR needs anyway, as they already have two first line centers in Matthews and Tavares, what would they possibly need Zib for? The DET one is pretty off the mark as well, as Hronek and Athanasiou dont meet the level of Marner, even though I do really like Athanasiou, and perhaps that 2020 DET pick will be a golden lottery ticket to a top 5 pick in the draft.

Some of these I think aren't that bad however, like the PHI one I think meets the needs and talent level, the CHI and CGY ones aren't bad either. I'd go as far to say that the CHI one yields the best assets, given that Strome can find success away from Debrincat and Kane.

All things considered, the trades aren't very equal in value to one another, as there are some ok ones and some awful ones. Perhaps you should work to make the trades even on both sides, for all of them.

Sep. 7, 2019 at 9:52 p.m.

#12

Eli

Who adds what?

Joined: Jul. 2017

Posts: 13,677

Likes: 2,703

Edited Sep. 8, 2019 at 11:31 a.m.

Quoting: MJC13

So the Caps can give up Orlov and Vrana for Marner, but the Bruins have to give up Debrusk and McAvoy?

First of all, the Caps are gonna pass on that.

Second, Orlov and McAvoy each top out at 8 points in a postseason, and have 16 career. Marner has a career high of 9, and a career total of 17, so he's totally better, and you can totally see the value!

ETA: Orlov is still better than McAvoy right now, and Vrana is still better than DeBrusk right now, and somehow the Caps are throwing in an extra pick....

Meanwhile, SJ and Pitt are each getting Marner for a 2nd line wing, plus some odds and ends they won't notice are missing. Are you sure you want to complain about Orlov? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BHyuuGKtro

Washington counters with Orlov + Oshie, because otherwise they can't afford Marner. Toronto adds Bracco for Stephenson to even out the overpayment. Boston probably goes with McAvoy, Backes, and a 3rd.

Sep. 7, 2019 at 9:55 p.m.

#13

A_K

Lets Go Blues

Joined: Jun. 2016

Posts: 6,774

Likes: 4,332

Thomas > Marner

Sep. 8, 2019 at 11:21 a.m.

#14

JayTea

14m in dead cap

Joined: Mar. 2019

Posts: 3,578

Likes: 3,058

Quoting: CrossFireX33

I'm not sure if there's a single time you didn't overvalue him

Devils trade is probably about right. The vast majority of these need a piece or two going to the Leafs removed to be sane.

Sep. 8, 2019 at 11:33 a.m.

#15

Eli

Who adds what?

Joined: Jul. 2017

Posts: 13,677

Likes: 2,703

Quoting: JayTea

Devils trade is probably about right. The vast majority of these need a piece or two going to the Leafs removed to be sane.

Marner for Hall, straight up? Each has just one 90 point season, and Marner is six years younger. Hall's 90 point year was in a lower scoring season, and he's cheaper for this year, so maybe it's close to fair, but I think Toronto adds a little bit, based on the age difference and the odds that the 22 year old keeps improving while the guy turning 28 in November levels off.

Sep. 8, 2019 at 12:29 p.m.

#16

yamahut

EDM

Joined: Jan. 2017

Posts: 578

Likes: 80

Quoting: sabres89

I may over value him too, the only ones that are terrible to me are the Dallas and Colorado ones. Edmonton is giving up a lot too. I think marner is a difference maker, even playing the wing.

The Oilers trade is absolutely ridiculous

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