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Created by: claysbar
Initial Creation Date: Sep 8, 2019
Published: Sep 8 at 1:34 pm
Team: 2019-20 Pittsburgh Penguins
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Pettersson, Marcus5$3,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Hutton, Ben1$2,250,000
Trades
PIT
  1. Kaprizov, Kirill [Reserve List]
  2. 2022 2nd round pick (MIN)
Additional Details:
2022 2nd is condtional. PIT recieves it if Kaprizov is not signed by draft day 2022.
MIN
  1. Bjugstad, Nick
PIT
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (LAK)
Would take a contract like Frk's (contracts that could be sent to the minors with no cap issues) to give them space for contracts under the 50 limit.
LAK
  1. Johnson, Jack
  2. Bellerive, Jordy
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (PIT)
  4. 2022 2nd round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Kloos, Justin
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (ANA)
Additional Details:
ANA hasn't officially waived the flag yet so they need a RD that can play 2nd pair minutes ( albeit limited ). If they do decide to re-build this season, they could retain another mill and at least get back the 3rd if not more.
ANA
  1. Gudbranson, Erik ($1,000,000 retained)
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Konovalov, Ilya [Reserve List]
  2. 2020 4th round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Yes, yes, YESSSS. EDM has two goalies with clauses, I GET IT!!! Jarry to EDM gives the team a goalie for 350K...350K!!! He has a history with the city, EDM has an old goalie and an unproven goalie ahead of him...350K!!! Feel good story for the team this year if not the league.
EDM
  1. Jarry, Tristan ($325,000 retained)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Erik Gudbranson: $1,000,000 (25%)
  • Tristan Jarry: $325,000 (48.15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
PIT
LAK
PIT
ANA
PIT
EDM
PIT
PIT
2021
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2022
PIT
MIN
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$77,875,000$132,500$3,832,500$3,625,000
Left WingCenterRight Wing
PIT
Guentzel, Jake
$6,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
PIT
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
PIT
Hörnqvist, Patric
$5,300,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 4
PIT
Galchenyuk, Alex
$4,900,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
PIT
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
PIT
Kahun, Dominik
$925,000
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Tanev, Brandon
$3,500,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 6
PIT
McCann, Jared
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
PIT
Rust, Bryan
$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
PIT
Aston-Reese, Zach
$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
PIT
Blueger, Teddy
$750,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
PIT
Simon, Dominik
$750,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
PIT
Lafferty, Sam
$767,500
C, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
PIT
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 4
PIT
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 3
PIT
Murray, Matt
$3,750,000
G
RFA - 1
Hutton, Ben
$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 1
PIT
Schultz, Justin
$5,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
PIT
DeSmith, Casey
$1,250,000
G
UFA - 3
PIT
Pettersson, Marcus
$3,000,000
LD
RFA - 1
PIT
Marino, John
$925,000
D
RFA - 2
PIT
Riikola, Juuso
$850,000
D
RFA - 1
PIT
Ruhwedel, Chad
$700,000
RD
UFA - 2

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Sep 8 at 1:36
#1
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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All teams except LA would laugh at those offers!
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Sep 8 at 1:37
#2
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claysbar
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Quoting: SammyT_51
All teams except LA would laugh at those offers!


Why?
Sep 8 at 1:39
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Bjug is worth like a third max
Sep 8 at 1:42
#4
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Quoting: claysbar
Why?


MIN: No way in hell are they trading Kaprizov alone.. AND 2nd round to add on top of that for 4.1M bottom-6 player.
ANA: They are better off keeping Kloos and sign someone else than trade for total bum.
EDM: Konovalov is 18yr old and one of the best goalie prospects there are and you are trading him on top of 2nd round pick for 24yr old AHL goalie..
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Sep 8 at 1:43
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Kaprisov is one of the best players not in the NHL. No way in hell they move him for a 3rd line player AND also throw in a 2nd themselves.
Sep 8 at 1:45
#6
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claysbar
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Quoting: papishark
Bjug is worth like a third max


OK, we'll go with that. So Bjug isn't worth a guy they drafted 4 years ago and has shown "ZERO" signs of wanting to be there, getting a C/RW who is better than most of the ones they already have (how sad is that???) who will make them better NOW like the owner thinks they can be or possibly giving up a 2nd 2 years from now?
Sep 8 at 1:46
#7
Thread Starter
claysbar
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Quoting: ClockReads2113
Kaprisov is one of the best players not in the NHL. No way in hell they move him for a 3rd line player AND also throw in a 2nd themselves.


Read, read, read....
Sep 8 at 1:47
#8
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claysbar
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Quoting: SammyT_51
MIN: No way in hell are they trading Kaprizov alone.. AND 2nd round to add on top of that for 4.1M bottom-6 player.
ANA: They are better off keeping Kloos and sign someone else than trade for total bum.
EDM: Konovalov is 18yr old and one of the best goalie prospects there are and you are trading him on top of 2nd round pick for 24yr old AHL goalie..


Read, read, READ!!!
Sep 8 at 1:48
#9
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Quoting: claysbar
Read, read, read....


Still doesn't matter with no 2nd involved. They aren't moving him for a 3rd liner.
Sep 8 at 1:48
#10
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Quoting: claysbar
Read, read, READ!!!


THINK, THINK, THINK!!!
Sep 8 at 1:51
#11
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claysbar
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Quoting: SammyT_51
THINK, THINK, THINK!!!


SO you think mocking my post makes your apparent lack of comprehension excusable? Think, think, think indeed.
Sep 8 at 1:52
#12
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claysbar
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Quoting: ClockReads2113
Still doesn't matter with no 2nd involved. They aren't moving him for a 3rd liner.


Agree to disagree.
Sep 8 at 1:53
#13
GM Hockeysaurus Rex
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Quoting: claysbar
SO you think mocking my post makes your apparent lack of comprehension excusable? Think, think, think indeed.


How is this mocking? I just told you that trades are bad and explained it to you? I understand everything you are trying to say.. those trades are bad.. and I pretty much explained why.
Sep 8 at 1:57
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KHL rights never expire why would Minnesota trade the rights to Kaprizov for a mediocre 3C? lmao trash

Also why tf is LA giving a 2nd back lol they are the team taking on the cap space and doing Pit a favor of getting rid of JJ
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Sep 8 at 2:00
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MIN: No way in hell are they trading Kaprizov alone.. AND 2nd round to add on top of that for 4.1M bottom-6 player.
ANA: They are better off keeping Kloos and sign someone else than trade for total bum.
EDM: Konovalov is 18yr old and one of the best goalie prospects there are and you are trading him on top of 2nd round pick for 24yr old AHL goalie..

How is this mocking? I just told you that trades are bad and explained it to you? I understand everything you are trying to say.. those trades are bad.. and I pretty much explained why.

Because on the MIN trade, you were wrong on the trade proposed alone. ANA, I get based on opinion but then on the EDM trade, you were once again wrong on the trade proposed. READ,READ,READ!!!
Sep 8 at 2:07
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Quoting: claysbar
Agree to disagree.


Imagine if PIT had Kaprisov. Would you trade him away for a 3rd liner? Didn't think so.
Sep 8 at 2:07
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Quoting: MadmanFromMadison
KHL rights never expire why would Minnesota trade the rights to Kaprizov for a mediocre 3C? lmao trash

Also why tf is LA giving a 2nd back lol they are the team taking on the cap space and doing Pit a favor of getting rid of JJ


LAK's minor league is pretty barren, comparable to PIT's. This gives them more drafting/trading power and a guy in Jordy who is about ready for the NHL, good or bad. They will more than likely be flush with 1st's in the next year or two but you don't build a farm systems with 1st's alone.
Sep 8 at 2:09
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Quoting: ClockReads2113
Imagine if PIT had Kaprisov. Would you trade him away for a 3rd liner? Didn't think so.


If after all these years he wouldn't sign and they had an owner who allowed GM's to destroy the team but you wanted them to win now? Yeah, if I'm Billy G, I'm signing that **** yesterday.
Sep 8 at 2:21
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claysbar
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Quoting: MadmanFromMadison
KHL rights never expire why would Minnesota trade the rights to Kaprizov for a mediocre 3C? lmao trash

Also why tf is LA giving a 2nd back lol they are the team taking on the cap space and doing Pit a favor of getting rid of JJ


Sorry, didn't do the KHL rights part of this. PIT will trade Alexander Pechursky's rights as a boost. I mean, he looked good in one game back in 2009.
Sep 8 at 2:39
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Quoting: SammyT_51
MIN: No way in hell are they trading Kaprizov alone.. AND 2nd round to add on top of that for 4.1M bottom-6 player.
ANA: They are better off keeping Kloos and sign someone else than trade for total bum.
EDM: Konovalov is 18yr old and one of the best goalie prospects there are and you are trading him on top of 2nd round pick for 24yr old AHL goalie..


Konovalov-

Dobber- June 2019 – This is an intriguing pick for the Oilers. With the 85th pick in the 2019 draft Edmonton opted to select Konolov, a Russian goalie who was first draft eligible in 2016 but was passed over three years in a row before being selected by Edmonton. With that all being said, the young Russian net minder was ranked fourth for European goalies by NHL Central Scouting and completely blew the doors off of the KHL as a 20 year old this past season. In 45 games with Lokomotiv last season, Konovalov recorded an impressive 1.89 GAA to go along with his 0.930 SV%. His play earned him the KHL rookie of the year award which hasn’t been won by a goalie since Andrei Vasilevsky won it in 2014. Konovalov’s numbers aren’t completely surprising considering he’s put up strong stats at every level that he’s played at but likely didn’t garner enough attention sooner due to bouncing around to different leagues the past couple seasons. At six feet tall, he doesn’t have the size that most NHL teams covet in a goalie but his performance this season undeniable. Konovalov has two years left on his current contract in the KHL. Jameson Ewasiuk

Elite Prospects has no articles about him

RotoWire- Occasionally, you will see a player who is passed over in his draft year only to be selected 12 months later. It's unheard of to see a player such as Konovalov who was passed over THREE different times. Although he is still just 20 years old, Konovalov has quickly developed into one of the best netminders in the KHL. He had a remarkable season (25-15-1, 1.89 GAA, .930 save percentage) for Yaroslavl and there is reason to expect further improvement given his age. Konovalov's future in regards to when he plans on coming over to North America is a bit murky, but adding such a young and talented goalie to their system was a great move for the Oilers.
Sep 8 at 2:43
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Quoting: claysbar
Konovalov-

Dobber- June 2019 – This is an intriguing pick for the Oilers. With the 85th pick in the 2019 draft Edmonton opted to select Konolov, a Russian goalie who was first draft eligible in 2016 but was passed over three years in a row before being selected by Edmonton. With that all being said, the young Russian net minder was ranked fourth for European goalies by NHL Central Scouting and completely blew the doors off of the KHL as a 20 year old this past season. In 45 games with Lokomotiv last season, Konovalov recorded an impressive 1.89 GAA to go along with his 0.930 SV%. His play earned him the KHL rookie of the year award which hasn’t been won by a goalie since Andrei Vasilevsky won it in 2014. Konovalov’s numbers aren’t completely surprising considering he’s put up strong stats at every level that he’s played at but likely didn’t garner enough attention sooner due to bouncing around to different leagues the past couple seasons. At six feet tall, he doesn’t have the size that most NHL teams covet in a goalie but his performance this season undeniable. Konovalov has two years left on his current contract in the KHL. Jameson Ewasiuk

Elite Prospects has no articles about him

RotoWire- Occasionally, you will see a player who is passed over in his draft year only to be selected 12 months later. It's unheard of to see a player such as Konovalov who was passed over THREE different times. Although he is still just 20 years old, Konovalov has quickly developed into one of the best netminders in the KHL. He had a remarkable season (25-15-1, 1.89 GAA, .930 save percentage) for Yaroslavl and there is reason to expect further improvement given his age. Konovalov's future in regards to when he plans on coming over to North America is a bit murky, but adding such a young and talented goalie to their system was a great move for the Oilers.


I read those. Especially the dobber one. I work for them.

"completely blew the doors off of the KHL as a 20 year old this past season. In 45 games with Lokomotiv last season, Konovalov recorded an impressive 1.89 GAA to go along with his 0.930 SV%. His play earned him the KHL rookie of the year award which hasn’t been won by a goalie since Andrei Vasilevsky won it in 2014. Konovalov’s numbers aren’t completely surprising considering he’s put up strong stats at every level that he’s played at" this is why Oilers wouldnt trade him AND pick for 24yr old AHL goalie. He will come over.. young russian goalies like to take time in KHL before coming over. Oilers have future starter in him.
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Sep 8 at 3:05
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One of the best prospects in the NHL plus a pick for a middle 6 center?

What?
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Sep 8 at 7:45
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Marino needs a year in wbs. I made a post on this not long ago. The way the team talks about him and his play. He was a top defense man in NCAA. They will put him in 2nd pairing next year when Schultz leaves, I think we can see that coming at this point. JPO will be the other LHD next year too, JJ will be gone. I think that's the plan.
As far as forwards, I have been saying since mid point last year that Angelo deserves playing time. That's why I think Jugs is gone. The return, will be what it is, they can't keep the youth not playing. Blueger can play 3C, and Angelo is going to be nice on the 4th line. The way he looked in the prospect game shows why. It will be interesting what they do come training camp. He's a big dude plays physical, has some hands. It's hard not to notice. He is also a willing person to drop gloves. That helps guys like Guddy out and opens up space for the team to have a few guys willing to do what needs to be done on the ice. Guddy, Angelo, ZAR. You can count on those guys. They need that toughness on the ice. I can imagine this team in 2 years with Angelo and Niikita and Guddy on it. They will be the penguin bullies. Tough to play against that. A real shut down line on the 4th line with guys who can play defense and have the size to physically dominate you.
I think we are going to see JJ moved soon. I think Simon is out the door with him, possibly Jarry too. The cookie monster looked really good in the prospect game. It really depends what they get out of Almari and Riikola as a 1-2 year stop gap on JJ. Someone has to play LD on the 3rd pairing. One of those 2 has to shine and take it from him. If they can do that in camp, JJ is gone.
Sep 17 at 11:10
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Quoting: claysbar
LAK's minor league is pretty barren, comparable to PIT's. This gives them more drafting/trading power and a guy in Jordy who is about ready for the NHL, good or bad. They will more than likely be flush with 1st's in the next year or two but you don't build a farm systems with 1st's alone.



LMFAO LA's farm system blows Pittsburgh's out of the water. Hell pretty much any team in the league has a better farm system than the Pens
 
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