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Created by: Copenhagen
Initial Creation Date: Sep 6, 2019
Published: Sep 11, 2019 at 1:08 am
Team: 2019-20 Edmonton Oilers
Team Explanation
I just dont think Persson is ready like Trudeau
Buyouts
  • Andrej Sekera: $2,500,000
  • Benoit Pouliot: $1,333,333
  • Eric Gryba: $300,000
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Milan Lucic: $750,000 (13%)
  • Sam Gagner: $315,000 (10%)
Buried
  • Brandon Manning: $1,175,000 ($2,250,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
2021
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
PIT
EDM
2022
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
EDM
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$78,636,166$0$2,250,000$2,863,834

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
EDM
Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 6
EDM
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000
C
UFA - 7
EDM
Kassian, Zack
$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 1
EDM
Khaira, Jujhar
$1,200,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
EDM
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$6,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
EDM
Neal, James
$5,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
EDM
Nygård, Joakim
$925,000
LW
UFA - 1
EDM
Granlund, Markus
$1,300,000
RW, LW, C
UFA - 1
EDM
Chiasson, Alex
$2,150,000
RW
UFA - 2
EDM
Jurco, Tomas
$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
EDM
Sheahan, Riley
$900,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
EDM
Archibald, Josh
$1,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
EDM
Cave, Colby
$675,000
C
RFA - 1
EDM
Gagner, Sam
$2,835,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
EDM
Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 4
EDM
Larsson, Adam
$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 2
EDM
Koskinen, Mikko
$4,500,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
EDM
Nurse, Darnell
$3,200,000
LD
UFA - 1
EDM
Benning, Matthew
$1,900,000
RD
RFA - 1
EDM
Smith, Mike
$2,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 1
EDM
Russell, Kris
$4,000,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
EDM
Bouchard, Evan
$894,167
RD
RFA - 3
EDM
Persson, Joel
$1,000,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
EDM
Brodziak, Kyle
$1,150,000
C
UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Neal, J.
McDavid, C.
Draisaitl, L.
Khaira, J.
Bouchard, E.
Power Play 2
Nygård, J.
Nugent-Hopkins, R.
Chiasson, A.
Klefbom, O.
Benning, M.
Penalty Kill 1
Granlund, M.
Kassian, Z.
Nurse, D.
Larsson, A.
Penalty Kill 2
Sheahan, R.
Khaira, J.
Klefbom, O.
Russell, K.

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Sep 11, 2019 at 1:17
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I don't think Bouchard is either. I know it's only rookie camp but seeing the last 2 games the best defender for the Oilers is Logan Day and not to mention he had 30+ in the AHL
Sep 11, 2019 at 1:20
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Quoting: AH96
I don't think Bouchard is either. I know it's only rookie camp but seeing the last 2 games the best defender for the Oilers is Logan Day and not to mention he had 30+ in the AHL


Well I think the most ready is lagesson, but the way the commentators talk, all they talk about is how good Bouchard is. Day is a righty which is what we need, competes hard too.
Sep 11, 2019 at 1:44
#3
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Quoting: Copenhagen
Well I think the most ready is lagesson, but the way the commentators talk, all they talk about is how good Bouchard is. Day is a righty which is what we need, competes hard too.


I like Laggesson aswell and put him in my Armchair GM rosters often but I really don't think he'll be on the 23 man roster due to the fact he's a shutdown defender and it looks as though they're seeking some point production. That's why all the talking heads are talking about Bouchard, Jones and Persson mostly.
Sep 11, 2019 at 2:16
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Quoting: AH96
I like Laggesson aswell and put him in my Armchair GM rosters often but I really don't think he'll be on the 23 man roster due to the fact he's a shutdown defender and it looks as though they're seeking some point production. That's why all the talking heads are talking about Bouchard, Jones and Persson mostly.


Yah I guess who gets injured will determine who gets the call up, but who will start is the big question.
Sep 11, 2019 at 6:39
#5
Joined: Mar 2017
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Quoting: AH96
I like Laggesson aswell and put him in my Armchair GM rosters often but I really don't think he'll be on the 23 man roster due to the fact he's a shutdown defender and it looks as though they're seeking some point production. That's why all the talking heads are talking about Bouchard, Jones and Persson mostly.


Pretty sure Lagesson's even strength production was in the same range as Jones and Bear and Day. He didn't get much PP time last year, so total P/GP would be lower.
Sep 11, 2019 at 7:16
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Quoting: Copenhagen
Well I think the most ready is lagesson, but the way the commentators talk, all they talk about is how good Bouchard is. Day is a righty which is what we need, competes hard too.


I think Lagesson is the most ready too, but he's a lefty and Tippett likes to keep guys on their natural side. So he's blocked a bit by Nurse, Klefbom and Russell.

Bouchard should get at least 40 games in the AHL to start the year IMO. Manson is an excellent coach and can help him prepare for defending at the NHL level.
Sep 11, 2019 at 7:24
#7
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Quoting: AH96
I like Laggesson aswell and put him in my Armchair GM rosters often but I really don't think he'll be on the 23 man roster due to the fact he's a shutdown defender and it looks as though they're seeking some point production. That's why all the talking heads are talking about Bouchard, Jones and Persson mostly.


Just looked at the numbers, and Jones doesn't provide more offense than Lagesson. His extra boxcars come from the power play and lets face it, he won't be getting PP time over Nurse and Klefbom in Edmonton. Even strength numbers in Bakersfield last season:

Bear: 52, 5-15-20 +14 / 0.38 P/GP
Day: 64, 4-19-23 +14 / 0.36
Lagesson: 67, 8-16-24 +25 / 0.36
Jones: 50, 3-13-16 +16 / 0.32

Jones produced the least amount of offense of any of these 4.

Persson was: 50, 2-15-17 +7 / 0.34 P/GP at even strength in the SHL last season, which is a better league than the AHL. Since I'm convinced Bouchard needs at least a 1/2 season in the AHL, I think Persson is the frontrunner for the 6th spot on the Oilers blueline. Lagesson is probably next in line. Not only is he better defensively than Jones, he out-produced him last year too.
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Sep 11, 2019 at 11:28
#8
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Quoting: CD282
Just looked at the numbers, and Jones doesn't provide more offense than Lagesson. His extra boxcars come from the power play and lets face it, he won't be getting PP time over Nurse and Klefbom in Edmonton. Even strength numbers in Bakersfield last season:

Bear: 52, 5-15-20 +14 / 0.38 P/GP
Day: 64, 4-19-23 +14 / 0.36
Lagesson: 67, 8-16-24 +25 / 0.36
Jones: 50, 3-13-16 +16 / 0.32

Jones produced the least amount of offense of any of these 4.

Persson was: 50, 2-15-17 +7 / 0.34 P/GP at even strength in the SHL last season, which is a better league than the AHL. Since I'm convinced Bouchard needs at least a 1/2 season in the AHL, I think Persson is the frontrunner for the 6th spot on the Oilers blueline. Lagesson is probably next in line. Not only is he better defensively than Jones, he out-produced him last year too.


What’s not being said by these numbers (in defence of Jones) is that Caleb was playing the right side on that pairing as a LHD. Not sure exactly how much that affects point production rates at even strength but I’d imagine it would be a negative for most players. Skating ability would also come into play. I haven’t seen any Persson footage other than highlights but watching Lagesson & Jones in Bakersfield they look to be close to the same speed.
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Sep 11, 2019 at 12:28
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Quoting: CD282
I think Lagesson is the most ready too, but he's a lefty and Tippett likes to keep guys on their natural side. So he's blocked a bit by Nurse, Klefbom and Russell.

Bouchard should get at least 40 games in the AHL to start the year IMO. Manson is an excellent coach and can help him prepare for defending at the NHL level.


That is a good point about tippet and you are right, he likes the lefty righty natural pairs
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Sep 11, 2019 at 12:30
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Just looked at the numbers, and Jones doesn't provide more offense than Lagesson. His extra boxcars come from the power play and lets face it, he won't be getting PP time over Nurse and Klefbom in Edmonton. Even strength numbers in Bakersfield last season:

Bear: 52, 5-15-20 +14 / 0.38 P/GP
Day: 64, 4-19-23 +14 / 0.36
Lagesson: 67, 8-16-24 +25 / 0.36
Jones: 50, 3-13-16 +16 / 0.32

Jones produced the least amount of offense of any of these 4.

Persson was: 50, 2-15-17 +7 / 0.34 P/GP at even strength in the SHL last season, which is a better league than the AHL. Since I'm convinced Bouchard needs at least a 1/2 season in the AHL, I think Persson is the frontrunner for the 6th spot on the Oilers blueline. Lagesson is probably next in line. Not only is he better defensively than Jones, he out-produced him last year too.


10000% agree, bouchard SHOULD be playing in ahl at least for 40 games, but these announcers make it sound like he is ready
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Sep 11, 2019 at 12:31
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Quoting: AH96
What’s not being said by these numbers (in defence of Jones) is that Caleb was playing the right side on that pairing as a LHD. Not sure exactly how much that affects point production rates at even strength but I’d imagine it would be a negative for most players. Skating ability would also come into play. I haven’t seen any Persson footage other than highlights but watching Lagesson & Jones in Bakersfield they look to be close to the same speed.


I think Lagesson can play right side as well, but yes Jones certainly can..... But Tippet likes lefty righty combos
 
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