The water in Toronto must be really bad

Thats a no from me

Avs fans r gonna be the one roasting

I really like both players but fans gotta pump the breaks on Cale Makar. He could be amazing but he's only played 10 games so far. There is a very real possibility that he's not a bonafide top pairing, Norris winning D year after year.

Marners proven to be an elite offensive force. Aside from a small sample size makar hasn’t proven much

This deal doesn't make sense for way too many reasons.

1) COL is still trying to resign Rantanen. They cannot afford both.
2) Makar had a great playoff and that's it. Chances are he'll be a top paring RHD for years to come, but other than potential and a good playoff showing not a whole lot of evidence yet. There is a much higher chance, Marner is going to continue to be a top 10 RW in this league, IMO.
3) His salary demands are pricing him out of any market in this league. Doesn't seem like his management group is realistic.

I would much rather have a reliable defenseman in a risky defense in Toronto, rather than an extra Offensive Powerhouse that wants 11 Million for 3 years.

Haha yeah well we already know that marner is only a 60-70 pt guy when playing with kadri, and that he turned down 11 million for 7 years, and doesnt play defense...

I'm going to take the chance on the guy everyone in the league thinks is going to be amazing for under 900k who plays the position we are the weakest in

Idea makes sense. Maybe an add from Colorado's end

I agree rodzikhockey

doesnt matter, his contract rumours scare me and COL doesnt need another RW. Id rather have Makar, especially with him on an ELC for 2 more years

call me crazy but what about an RFA for an RFA

Its fun how colorado fans think he is the second coming of bobby orr. In is first season expected makar to have none bigger impact then heiskanen had last year. I would do this trade only because marner contracts situation is bas because right now one on one marner is superior in any point. Makar as tremendous speed but have to work a lot on is game.

Kind of Like a Chara for Yashin deal.

It's funny how leaf fans think that marner is McDavid... why would Colorado significantly damage themselves defensively for another winger that's not as good as rantanen? So that they become the new leafs who are super top heavy?

Yeah maybe today makar isnt as good as marner, but someday makar could be a #1 RHD those are much harder to find than wingers and at 900k for 2 more seasons plus control is alot better than 12 mill at 5 years

You just said it yourself! Makar MIGHT BE.
I mean personally i wouldn’t do that trade because i don’t see why colorado would want to add another top forward. But still marner hold
More value right now. Makar could turn into a yakupov or alexandre daigle or patrick stefan. I teally doubt it but it’s not impossible.
For the rantanen and marner comparable i mean they are actually pretty close. No one as the edge over the other. Rantanen would be a 70 point players without MacKinnon as well so saying that marner relies on tavares is exactly the same. In 240 games marner as 15 more point then rantanen but rantanen as 11 more goal. So for me its pretty even

Hahaha yeah it's possible that he could become a yakupov but it's also possible he could become a Erik Karlsson or OEL and they are harder to find than a marner, I think sakic and every avs fan would take the chance on him especially considering marners outrageous contract demands. Also I watch marner and rantanen play consistently, rantanen has broken 80 points twice something marner hasn't, hes alsongreat defensively and big, you're right in saying that they are somewhat similar but i think rantanen edges out marner.

You think that because your a avs fan and tour are bias. I watched both play a lot and i am neither a leaf fan and a avs fan. Marner had broke the 90 point and rantanen hasn’t do bring me this argument because if marner had played with tavares last season he would
Have past the 80 mark too. Its more what tey do on ice. Both pas the puck well, rantanen have a better shot but marner control the puck better. Marner as a best acceleration, rantanen is bigger so like i said thing even out. Both are excellent players same age. You can like rantanen more but the facts is that there not one better then the other a this point. The on’y things that separate one from the other is your appreciation of the players.

And for makar i really like the players started to really follow him much more after team
Canada runs. He is more likely to succeed and i really hope he will. But bednar must be careful with is use this season. A 82 games season is far more demanding then a 40 games ncaa season.

I can only understand a bit of what you're saying, I'm not arguing that makar will be better than marner this season, I'm saying I think he is more valuable. And i think hes more valuable to the avs than marner would be.

And sure maybe i am bias about rantanen but the NHL network who rank NHL players agree with me

And the one on sportsnet rank marner ahead so like i said here the difference is more a appreciation and preferences than skill
And stats things. One expert like more marner and the other is rantanen.

For makar if he developed into what avs think he will, he will be more valuable for them but if he turn out like erik johnson who was a first overall pick avs might regret declining that trade for marner. Thats the hard part of
This trade because it’s more a projection then the actual value.

But this trade will never happen. This is pure speculation colorado don’t want to trade their young defenseman unless they brings another young blueliner. I mean if columbus would propose seth jones i think colorado would listen more then for marner or Matthews or whatever forward.

Haha yes there is always the possibility that he doesnt turn out but until then I think they are going to take the chance on it...

Oh and sportsnet ranked a maple leaf high??? Couldnt have anything to do with they fact that they are a Toronto based company with the same owners as maple leaf sports and entertainment

No because tavares is lower on sportsnet then on nhl network! And we talk here of a few spot difference. Its the same thing as the prospect ranking made at the ends of the years the central as one and there the team
List and the insiders list. The top list is almost always the same but after that its more a preferencial things. If you are high on a guys its normal then he is higher on that list.